🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: cu.motss
Article #137

Re: The Case for Gay Marriage - The Nation

#137
From: David Milner
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:00
45 lines
2917 bytes
jgauvin@symbios.com (Jeff Gauvin) writes:

[snip]

>I can't claim to know their motivation, and neither can you! Has anybody asked 
>them? Would you believe their answer? I can guarantee you that the mainstream 
>groups (CFV, FoF) won't say, "Oh, it's simple! We hate you!"

Of course not.  How would they gain support?  As it is, CFV already lies
in order to gain its support.  Did they not promote Amend 2 as the denial
of "special rights" to homosexuals, when in reality it removed existing
guaranteed rights?  If their motivations are genuine and well-meaning, why
must they lie about their actions?

Also, I seriously doubt that such organizations recognize their own
hatred.
As a previous poster explained, their actions probably stem more from fear
than simple dislike.  But the reaction to fear is often hatred, and 
judging
by their actions and the way they conduct themselves, that certainly seems
to be the case here.


>To be honest, I didn't really intend to get dragged into this discussion. I 
>don't know enough about either side to debate coherently. The "HATE" keyword 
>just sort of pushed my button.

Certain words, such as this one, shouldn't be thrown around lightly, I
agree.  But it certainly seems to apply in this case.

>Out of curiosity, why isn't religion a valid motivation?

This one left for the next poster.

>I'm outa here...

Guess you can't defend yourself anymore.  If you can't take the heat...

>------------------------------------------------
>Jeff Gauvin, Design Engineer, Symbios Logic Inc.
>jeff.gauvin@symbios.com
>          *** Opinions are my own ***

DAVE
Technical Details
Message-ID: <milner.834780332@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960613093431.647B-100000@spot.Colorado.EDU> <jgauvin.434.010E0E7B@symbios.com> <31c17fc1.44899013@news.cyberramp.net> <jgauvin.438.006D8992@symbios.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 108be9,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid108be9,public
X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,public
X-Google-Thread: f744b,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gidf744b,public
X-Google-Thread: 12ce57,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid12ce57,public
X-Google-Thread: 10bb69,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid10bb69,public
X-Google-Thread: f49ec,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gidf49ec,public
X-Google-Thread: 10be61,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid10be61,public
X-Google-Thread: 1026d8,754ce52e7af178f
X-Google-Attributes: gid1026d8,public
From: milner@ucsub.Colorado.EDU (David Milner)
Subject: Re: The Case for Gay Marriage - The Nation
Date: 1996/06/14
Message-ID: <milner.834780332@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
X-Deja-AN: 160210938
references: <Pine.GSO.3.93.960613093431.647B-100000@spot.Colorado.EDU> <jgauvin.434.010E0E7B@symbios.com> <31c17fc1.44899013@news.cyberramp.net> <jgauvin.438.006D8992@symbios.com>
organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
newsgroups: cu.motss,co.politics,boulder.general,co.general,soc.motss,co.politics.amend2.discuss,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.homosexual
nntp-posting-user: milner