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In article <BYRNE.94Jun14125732@gabor.ece.jhu.edu>, byrne@gabor.ece.jhu.edu
(Bill Byrne) wrote:

> Hi. Can anyone recommend a good place to go for auto alarms
> in the DC/Baltimore area?
> Thanks,
> Bill

Auto Sound Systems in Rockville ( I think they also have a location in
Arlington) is very good. They have very helpful employees and good
prices... I have been going there for stereo and alarm stuff for years. 
Having said that, I think car alarms are a waste of time. Just put a little
LED on your dash- any *real* car thief can steal your car despite the
alarm, and the LED will scare away the smash and grab dudes.  (and I have
an alarm- go figure)... just MHO.

rich

In article <BYRNE.94Jun14125732@gabor.ece.jhu.edu> Bill Byrne,
byrne@gabor.ece.jhu.edu writes:
>Hi. Can anyone recommend a good place to go for auto alarms
>in the DC/Baltimore area?
>Thanks,
>Bill

Accurate Auto Alarm in Oxon Hill
(301) 839-0292 ask for Rob (the owner) and
tell them Aki sent you.

They're the best around and (having checked) have the most
competitive prices anywhere in the area.  They back their
installations 100%.  Alot of their work is installing alarm
systems for dealerships and is the only authorized repair
facility for alot of the higher end alarm systems. 

good luck

regards,

-aki

byrne@gabor.ece.jhu.edu (Bill Byrne) writes:

>Hi. Can anyone recommend a good place to go for auto alarms
>in the DC/Baltimore area?
>Thanks,
>Bill

Greg's Auto Electronics, on E. Gude Drive in Rockville.  They did a great 
job installing an Alpine alarm system for me.  Also a cellphone and a CD/FM.
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Can anyone recommend a good place to buy a sledgehammer to smash the cars 
of alarm owners? 

For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually 
preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no 
good reason?

--Bill

In article <2tpq4k$d8s@access3.digex.net> bwalsh@access.digex.net (Bill Walsh) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a good place to buy a sledgehammer to smash the cars 
>of alarm owners? 
	No, as we law-abiding citizens do not want to aid and abet a crime.
Much as we would like to do so in this case...  

>For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually 
>preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no 
>good reason?
	Alarms do not "prevent" theft.  They make noise to attract the attention
of the car owner and other good citizens, who, if the thief has not 
already left the area, are supposed to call the police.  Even locks and
engine cut-off devices are supposed to delay the thief, to the point 
that fear of attention and annoyance at hampered crime makes the criminal  
leave.  If the automobile owner has an overly sensitive alarm, the police
will often make it a point to fine that person for creating a nuisance.
Either way, peace (and quiet) wins.  
>--Bill
>

In Article <2tpq4k$d8s@access3.digex.net>, bwalsh@access.digex.net (Bill
Walsh) wrote:

>For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually 
>preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no 
>good reason?

    I can, because I did it. I heard an alarm going off in the parking lot
at dusk, walked over to investigate, and made it a point to get a good look
at the guy inside the car. When I turned around he jumped into a nearby car
and took off. The guy was about two minutes away from removing the *Club*
and hot wiring the car, according to the cops.

    So, don't just bitch about the noise, do something about it!!! Perhaps
you can put a dent in crime.

        -- Joe
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In article <2tpq4k$d8s@access3.digex.net> bwalsh@access.digex.net (Bill Walsh) writes:
>Can anyone recommend a good place to buy a sledgehammer to smash the cars 
>of alarm owners? 
>
>For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually 
>preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no 
>good reason?

	Most good car alarms disable the ignition or the engine, so
car alarms do prevent someone from hot-wiring the car.  And given two
relatively nice cars, one with an alarm and one without, most thieves
will go after the car without the alarm.  Car alarms are also nice
when then the neighborhood kids play catch in the street...
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like to believe that we can "construct reality," I'm bound by physics.
Many of my dreams will have to remain powerful psychological states.

>>>>> "BW" == Bill Walsh <bwalsh@access.digex.net> writes:

BW> For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually 
BW> preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no 
BW> good reason?

Personal experience:  I came out of a restaurant at lunch one day to
find the car *next* to mine broken into.  My little red blinky light
was still blinking...  Of course, there's no proof that the blinky
light or the alarm was the deterrant, but I think it was.
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In dc.driving, gregor@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (joe gregor) writes:
 >>For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually
 >>preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no
 >>good reason?
 >
 >    I can, because I did it. I heard an alarm going off in the parking lot
 >at dusk, walked over to investigate, and made it a point to get a good look
 >at the guy inside the car. When I turned around he jumped into a nearby car
 >and took off. The guy was about two minutes away from removing the *Club*
 >and hot wiring the car, according to the cops.
 >
 >    So, don't just bitch about the noise, do something about it!!! Perhaps
 >you can put a dent in crime.
 >
 >        -- Joe


You were lucky he ran away, he could have shot you instead.

Bill (lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil)

>You were lucky he ran away, he could have shot you instead.

How could he do that?  I though handguns were outlawed in DC.

In Article <2tsjgnINN9n3@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil
(William Lewis) wrote:
>In dc.driving, gregor@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (joe gregor) writes:
> >>For that matter, can anyone cite an example of an alarm actually
> >>preventing a car theft and not just annoying a five-block radius for no
> >>good reason?
> >
> >    I can, because I did it. I heard an alarm going off in the parking lot
> >at dusk, walked over to investigate, and made it a point to get a good look
> >at the guy inside the car. When I turned around he jumped into a nearby car
> >and took off. The guy was about two minutes away from removing the *Club*
> >and hot wiring the car, according to the cops.
> >
> >    So, don't just bitch about the noise, do something about it!!! Perhaps
> >you can put a dent in crime.
> >
> >        -- Joe
>
>
>You were lucky he ran away, he could have shot you instead.
>

    True, but at some point you have to assume some risk if you want to make
the world a better place. Besides, doing nothing is no guaruntee you won't
get shot anyway, my father being a case in point!

        -- Joe

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In dc.driving, nugget@use.com (David McNett) writes:
 4>You were lucky he ran away, he could have shot you instead.
 >
 >How could he do that?  I though handguns were outlawed in DC.

Only for the law abiding are handguns illegal.

In dc.driving, gregor@nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (joe gregor) writes:
munch munch
 >>
 >>You were lucky he ran away, he could have shot you instead.
 >>
 >
 >    True, but at some point you have to assume some risk if you want to make
 >the world a better place. Besides, doing nothing is no guaruntee you won't
 >get shot anyway, my father being a case in point!
 >
 >        -- Joe


Read it again, I never said that one shouldn't do anything about it.
I think there are safer alternatives of intervention.

Bill (lewisw@oasys.dt.navy.mil)

Vivek Khera <khera@norval.clark.net> wrote:
>
>Personal experience:  I came out of a restaurant at lunch one day to
>find the car *next* to mine broken into.  My little red blinky light
>was still blinking...  Of course, there's no proof that the blinky
>light or the alarm was the deterrant, but I think it was.

If that's the case, maybe I can just get a warning decal and a blinky
light, and forget the expensive alarm.

Personally, I think the best theft protectin is to park next to
someone whose car is more expensive than yours.  I routinely park my 3
year old Geo Prizm next to Cadillacs, Porsches, Audis, etc.  The way I
see it, a thief isn't going to bother with my car (which has a club on
the wheel), when he can go after the more expensive car next to me
(which usually doesn't have anything on the wheel.)

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