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In article <1997070218452313431@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
Paul Womar <Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> version and some PC retailers that do have the internal version but
> aren't sure if the drive will work on the Mac!  Has anyone bought a SCSI

It will almost certainly work great -- the problem is mounting
hardware! Apple's decision to use custom-manufactured plastic parts
for most of its models means that you often need special brackets just
to mount normal hard disks. To mount a disk which requires external
access, you'll also need custom faceplates which are cut to fit both
your Mac and the Syjet.

What a mess! APS carries some of the custom mounting hardware and
might sell it to you separately. Faceplates for an internal Jaz would
probably work OK with the Syjet, but it would be a gamble.

Rick R.

Rick Russell <rickr@is.rice.edu> wrote:

> It will almost certainly work great -- the problem is mounting
> hardware!

No real problem, most removables conform to the same (CD-ROM) dimensions
so one faceplate fits allmost all (certainly for my SyQuest, MO and
CD-ROM drives.) The mounting kits and 5.25" to 3.5" adaptor rails are
available from Performance Direct, and others.

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In article <19970702233410335919@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> No real problem, most removables conform to the same (CD-ROM) dimensions
> so one faceplate fits allmost all (certainly for my SyQuest, MO and
> CD-ROM drives.) The mounting kits and 5.25" to 3.5" adaptor rails are

Uhh, no. I don't know if you've ever looked at the front of most Macs,
but the CD-ROM faceplate is customized to fit. Typically it's got a
hole just barely large enough to fit the CD-ROM tray; the CD-ROM
itself usually sits a couple of centimeters back in the case behind
the custom faceplate.

The situation is worse when you've got a 3.5" device; the Zip and Jaz
at least come with a blue or green plastic plate to cover the space
left around the drive by the large bay. I don't know about the Syjet.

In addition, very few Macs have bays which can mount drives without
special brackets. I haven't popped open a 6400/6500 yet, but I know
that's true of the 7200, 7500, 7600, 8600, etc. Usually you screw the
drive into a plastic plate or clip, then snap the drive into place in
the bay. The drive usually can't be attached without a mounting plate
or clip.

Most of the Mac clones are much more forgiving. All the
Powercomputing, UMAX and Starmax clones I've seen use
industry-standard bays and faceplates for everything.

Rick R.

Rick Russell <rickr@is.rice.edu> wrote:

> > No real problem, most removables conform to the same (CD-ROM) dimensions
> > so one faceplate fits allmost all (certainly for my SyQuest, MO and
> > CD-ROM drives.) The mounting kits and 5.25" to 3.5" adaptor rails are
> 
> Uhh, no. I don't know if you've ever looked at the front of most Macs,
> but the CD-ROM faceplate is customized to fit.

Yes, I've looked at most of them. I don't understand what you're whining
about. Buy a mount kit from the appropriate dealer and there is no
problem. As I said, the majority of 5.25 in devices of whatever type
have the same "mouthprint" so one fascia plate fits all. Sure you need
different plates for different Macs, but where's the big problem?

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In article <1997070419082544083@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, I've looked at most of them. I don't understand what you're whining
> about. Buy a mount kit from the appropriate dealer and there is no
> problem. As I said, the majority of 5.25 in devices of whatever type
> have the same "mouthprint" so one fascia plate fits all. Sure you need
> different plates for different Macs, but where's the big problem?

I'm whining because the original poster wants to buy a PC internal
Syjet and mount it in his Mac. The Syjet is not a 5.25" device, and it
doesn't have the same "mouthprint" as a CD-ROM.

Hence, it's very important to find a vendor who can sell the correct
faceplate.

Rick R.

Rick Russell <rickr@is.rice.edu> wrote:

> Hence, it's very important to find a vendor who can sell the correct
> faceplate.

I gave that information in my first reply, and since he was a UK
resident made it a UK dealer.

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In article <5pjri2$oei$1@joe.rice.edu>,
rickr@is.rice.edu (Rick Russell) wrote:

>I'm whining because the original poster wants to buy a PC internal
>Syjet and mount it in his Mac. The Syjet is not a 5.25" device, and it
>doesn't have the same "mouthprint" as a CD-ROM.
>
>Hence, it's very important to find a vendor who can sell the correct
>faceplate.

If you cannot find a vendor to sell you the correct parts, you can
also simply buy a closed front, and cut a hole in it yourself.
This is what I did to mount my MO 640 in my 7500.

A hot knife will cut the plastic very nicely. Then you can use a fine
file smooth the edges, and get the dimensions exactly right. The file
made a pretty awful noise, but the result is excellent.

Maarten


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In article <d-summer-0307970759180001@194.83.182.134>,
d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dennis Summerbell) wrote:

> We tried to order a Syjet last week. Our supplier claims that they are now
> definitely out of production, Syquest is irretrievably bust, and they
> recommended a third party look-alike (D2).  There's a big MacWorld report
> due out on removeables in the current issue. Mine hasn't arrived yet but
> there is a report on the macWorld Web Page. 

has anyone else heard anything about this?  the above is the only reference
to syquest's demise that i've seen; my search of www.macworld.com didn't
turn up anything.

i'm seriously considering buying a syjet, so this issue is a big one for
me.  thanks for any/all info...

elizabeth
8thweek@wco.com (w/o the asterisk)

In article <8thweek-ya02408000R1907971707290001@news.wco.com>,
*8thweek@wco.com wrote:

~In article <d-summer-0307970759180001@194.83.182.134>,
~d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dennis Summerbell) wrote:
~
~> We tried to order a Syjet last week. Our supplier claims that they are now
~> definitely out of production, Syquest is irretrievably bust, and they
~> recommended a third party look-alike (D2).  There's a big MacWorld report
~> due out on removeables in the current issue. Mine hasn't arrived yet but
~> there is a report on the macWorld Web Page. 
~
~has anyone else heard anything about this?  the above is the only reference
~to syquest's demise that i've seen; my search of www.macworld.com didn't
~turn up anything.
~
~i'm seriously considering buying a syjet, so this issue is a big one for
~me.  thanks for any/all info...
~
~elizabeth
~8thweek@wco.com (w/o the asterisk)


Syquest is alive and kicking. In fact, Syquest recently announced that
they will be giving away a free 1.5GB Syjet disk to new purchasers of the
Syjet drive between July and October.

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In article <8thweek-ya02408000R1907971707290001@news.wco.com>,
*8thweek@wco.com wrote:

> In article <d-summer-0307970759180001@194.83.182.134>,
> d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dennis Summerbell) wrote:
> 
> > We tried to order a Syjet last week. Our supplier claims that they are now
> > definitely out of production, Syquest is irretrievably bust, and they
> > recommended a third party look-alike (D2).  There's a big MacWorld report
> > due out on removeables in the current issue. Mine hasn't arrived yet but
> > there is a report on the macWorld Web Page. 
> 
> has anyone else heard anything about this?  the above is the only reference
> to syquest's demise that i've seen; my search of www.macworld.com didn't
> turn up anything.
> 
> i'm seriously considering buying a syjet, so this issue is a big one for
> me.  thanks for any/all info...
> 
> elizabeth
> 8thweek@wco.com (w/o the asterisk)

Actually I have heard from News.com (don't know the exact date) that
Syquest is doing a lot better now than before. I would assume that it is
directly related to the SyJet, and some sort of restructuring. They are
going to soon release another drive that in many ways surpasses the Jaz or
SyJet in performance. I think it is called the Rocket.

I own a Syjet, and can confidently say that it is very stable and
reliable. I use it mostly for multimedia projects and backing up. It
performs above and beyond my expectations. I use Jaz's at work and the
SyJet, in my opinion, is a much better buy. I have not had any bad
experiences with their cartridges or drive. 

The only problem I have is the software. I would recommend using HDT or
FWB as your main Disk toolkit. 

Otherwise, I highly recommend the SyJet.

Daniel Kim
 dckim@mindspring.com

In article <8thweek-ya02408000R1907971707290001@news.wco.com>,
*8thweek@wco.com wrote:

> In article <d-summer-0307970759180001@194.83.182.134>,
> d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dennis Summerbell) wrote:
> 
> > We tried to order a Syjet last week. Our supplier claims that they are now
> > definitely out of production, Syquest is irretrievably bust, and they
> > recommended a third party look-alike (D2).  There's a big MacWorld report
> > due out on removeables in the current issue. Mine hasn't arrived yet but
> > there is a report on the macWorld Web Page. 
> 
> has anyone else heard anything about this?  the above is the only reference
> to syquest's demise that i've seen; my search of www.macworld.com didn't
> turn up anything.
> 
> i'm seriously considering buying a syjet, so this issue is a big one for
> me.  thanks for any/all info...
> 
> elizabeth
> 8thweek@wco.com (w/o the asterisk)

It may be worth noting that Dennis is from the U.K. (I presume) and there
is a U.K. version of MacWorld.

I have seen locally the extra cartridge promotion mentioned in another reply.

Roosevelt

In article <8thweek-ya02408000R1907971707290001@news.wco.com>,
*8thweek@wco.com wrote:

> In article <d-summer-0307970759180001@194.83.182.134>,
> d-summer@nimr.mrc.ac.uk (Dennis Summerbell) wrote:
> 
> > We tried to order a Syjet last week. Our supplier claims that they are now
> > definitely out of production, Syquest is irretrievably bust, and they
> > recommended a third party look-alike (D2).  There's a big MacWorld report
> > due out on removeables in the current issue. Mine hasn't arrived yet but
> > there is a report on the macWorld Web Page. 
> 
> has anyone else heard anything about this?  the above is the only reference
> to syquest's demise that i've seen; my search of www.macworld.com didn't
> turn up anything.
> 
> i'm seriously considering buying a syjet, so this issue is a big one for
> me.  thanks for any/all info...
> 
> elizabeth
> 8thweek@wco.com (w/o the asterisk)

It may be worth noting that Dennis is from the U.K. (I presume) and there
is a U.K. version of MacWorld.

I have seen locally the extra cartridge promotion mentioned in another reply.

Roosevelt