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In article (Dans l'article) <833487276snz@musicman.demon.co.uk>,
scott@musicman.demon.co.uk wrote (�crivait)�:

>I need (for work) a TCP/IP stack, with telnet, ftp, etc.  that can do the
>following:
>
>- telnet with colour VT220 emulation (plus VT100/320/etc. would be nice)
>- Programmable function keys (so I can define F1-F10 keys)
>- 132 column by 43 line display (automatically, on receiving a display
>  code from the host system)
>- must have an ftp server that can run in background (whilst doing telnet
>  for example).

NCSA Telnet does almost all of these.

>- must have some way of receiving print jobs from a remote system (on our
>  PCs at work, we either have an lpd server running in b/g, or the host
>  system FTPs the file directly to the PC's LPT1 printer port).

I think there no real easy solution. It is quit a pain to do that. Maclpd
is a lpr daemon on mac.

>- all the usual tcp/ip stuff (ping, finger, etc.)

Finger is available. Ping is in TCPWatcher.

All of these is available at ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/mac/info-mac

>I NEED all the above in one package, plus the usual tcp/ip stuff.  I don't
>care if its cheap, expensive, free, shareware, whatever.  It's not my
>money! Quick and easy to install would also be nice...

For the TCP/IP Stack, it is avaible as MacTCP with System 7.5.x, and as
OpenTransport with any PCI Based PowerMacintosh or with System Update 2
(aka System 7.5.3) for every Macintosh.
If you have System 7.5, it is not a problem, it is on the diskettes.

You'll also need StuffIt Expander to decode/decompress all the stuff
you'll get from ftp.



Hub

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>>- telnet with colour VT220 emulation (plus VT100/320/etc. would be nice)
>>- Programmable function keys (so I can define F1-F10 keys)
>>- 132 column by 43 line display (automatically, on receiving a display
>>  code from the host system)
>>- must have an ftp server that can run in background (whilst doing telnet
>>  for example).
>NCSA Telnet does almost all of these.

Which does/doesn't it do?  I really need to know (and seeing as I don't
currently have access to a Mac, I have no way of finding out!)

>>  PCs at work, we either have an lpd server running in b/g, or the host
>>  system FTPs the file directly to the PC's LPT1 printer port).
>I think there no real easy solution. It is quit a pain to do that. Maclpd
>is a lpr daemon on mac.

That sounds like just the job.  Does it come with the Mac, NCSA, or
available elswhere?

>If you have System 7.5, it is not a problem, it is on the diskettes.

I believe that is what I have.

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In article <833717674snz@musicman.demon.co.uk>,
Scott Mordecai <scott@musicman.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>>>- telnet with colour VT220 emulation (plus VT100/320/etc. would be nice)
>>>- Programmable function keys (so I can define F1-F10 keys)
>>>- 132 column by 43 line display (automatically, on receiving a display
>>>  code from the host system)
>>>- must have an ftp server that can run in background (whilst doing telnet
>>>  for example).
>>NCSA Telnet does almost all of these.
>
>Which does/doesn't it do? 

Well, it doesn't do ftp, you'd need a copy of Ftp'd for that. Try doing an
Archie search, alternatively if you have a Mac webserver you'll find that
the package includes most of this stuff. The programmable function keys is
usually done using a macro package - KeyQuencer is good enough for most
people and it is scriptable. 132 cols by 43 lines is easy peasy, you're
thinking too much in DOS mode, most Mac pacakges can handle any
width/length within the limits of resolution of the display. There are also
some good Telnet implementations available for use with the Comms Toolbox,
I use SITcomm from Aladdin but any CTB aware application can use the same
interchangeable set of tools, allowing you to plug any transport layer onto
any terminal that you choose. ISTr that the basic SITcomm package came with
VT100/220/320 tools but no telnet, there are however several telnet tools
around.

You may want to have a look at VICOM's TCP/IP comms package which is
supposed to offer a good all-round package. I've never used it so I can't
coment.

>>>  PCs at work, we either have an lpd server running in b/g, or the host
>>>  system FTPs the file directly to the PC's LPT1 printer port).
>>I think there no real easy solution. It is quit a pain to do that. Maclpd
>>is a lpr daemon on mac.
>
>That sounds like just the job.  Does it come with the Mac, NCSA, or
>available elswhere?
>

You would probably do well to get yourself a copy of Userland's Frontier.
You can find it at various ftp sites, if you look for "Aretha." Frontier is
an alternative script language to Apple's AppleScript and there is an
insanely great TCP/IP package available from Userland's Web site which
would allow you to script text output. ISTR that some of the examples on
the Web site include
how to set up an ftp server using the Aretha TCP/IP package alone.

In article <ADD76E099668756E7@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <833717674snz@musicman.demon.co.uk>,
>Scott Mordecai <scott@musicman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>- telnet with colour VT220 emulation (plus VT100/320/etc. would be nice)
>>>>- Programmable function keys (so I can define F1-F10 keys)
>>>>- 132 column by 43 line display (automatically, on receiving a display
>>>>  code from the host system)
>>>>- must have an ftp server that can run in background (whilst doing telnet
>>>>  for example).
>>>NCSA Telnet does almost all of these.
>>
>>Which does/doesn't it do? 
>
>Well, it doesn't do ftp, you'd need a copy of Ftp'd for that. Try doing an

NCSA Telnet does have a built-in ftp server.  What it doesn't have is a built-in
ftp client.  You configure the server using the Edit:Preferences:FTP Server
and Edit:Preferences:FTP Users menus.

I'm not really sure if the 132x43 display feature and programmable
function keys are available, though.  I never use such features myself.

I suppose the definitive source on these questions would be the Users Guide
to version 2.6 available in postscript and in acrobat pdf files
in: 
  ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mac/Telnet/Telnet2.6/Telnet2.6UserGuide
(unfortunately, the pdf files have been saved in MacBinary and BinHex
formats, which means you will need a Mac to read them)
The latest verion of the program is 2.7b4.  The differences between it
and version 2.6 are summarized in:
  ftp://ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Mac/Telnet/Telnet2.7/2.7-doc-addendum.txt
(There doesn't seem to be an actual Users Guide for version 2.7).

Mike
--------------
Mike Thornburg    mthorn@rahul.net

In article <4osv8j$jvu@samba.rahul.net>,
Mike Thornburg <mthorn@rahul.net> wrote:

>NCSA Telnet does have a built-in ftp server.  What it doesn't have is a built-in
>ftp client. 

Hmm, my version (2.5) doesn't have an ftp server, it does have an ftp
client. I'll stick with my recommendation for ftp'd which does a good job
of being an ftp server and is distributed with Apple's web server software.

In article <ADD76E099668756E7@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

>In article <833717674snz@musicman.demon.co.uk>,
>Scott Mordecai <scott@musicman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>>- telnet with colour VT220 emulation (plus VT100/320/etc. would be nice)
>>>>- Programmable function keys (so I can define F1-F10 keys)
>>>>- 132 column by 43 line display (automatically, on receiving a display
>>>>  code from the host system)
>>>>- must have an ftp server that can run in background (whilst doing telnet
>>>>  for example).
>>>NCSA Telnet does almost all of these.
>>
>>Which does/doesn't it do? 
>
>Well, it doesn't do ftp,

Actually, it does. They may have yanked it out in the 2.7 betas, but it is
still present in 2.6. Nice fat security hole.

-- 
Bill Stewart-Cole,KoX SP4

In article <ADDA70DE9668C246F@firthcom.demon.co.uk> filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk
(Steve Firth) writes:
>
>Hmm, my version (2.5) doesn't have an ftp server, it does have an ftp
>client. I'll stick with my recommendation for ftp'd which does a good job
>of being an ftp server and is distributed with Apple's web server software.

The latest version of ftpd is called NetPresenz, and include integrated, simple
facilities for gopher and http too.
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