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ZIP formats
#351
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 00:00
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I need to cart a lot of files from a PowerBook to a Windows laptop. The
PowerBook has a ZIP drive, and I'm planning to get a ZIP for the Windows
machine - are the Mac and PC formats compatible?

Ben

-- 
Ben Lovejoy                    | 'To see tomorrow's PC,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk        |  look at today's Macintosh'
http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk |  -- BYTE, Oct 1995
Re: ZIP formats
#352
Author: Peter Ceresole
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:00
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In article <B32451F9966822F4ED@tvsystems.demon.co.uk>,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk (Ben Lovejoy) wrote:

>I need to cart a lot of files from a PowerBook to a Windows laptop. The
>PowerBook has a ZIP drive, and I'm planning to get a ZIP for the Windows
>machine - are the Mac and PC formats compatible?

Yes; if you use a PeeCee formatted Zip cart, both the Mac and the Windows
machine can use it happily.

-- 
Peter
Re: ZIP formats
#353
Author: Paul Womar
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 00:00
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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I need to cart a lot of files from a PowerBook to a Windows laptop. The
> PowerBook has a ZIP drive, and I'm planning to get a ZIP for the Windows
> machine - are the Mac and PC formats compatible?

Not exactly but that's what PC exchange is for.  Use a PC formatted one
(normal FAT or whatever they call it) and it should be fine.
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Re: ZIP formats
#354
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:00
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>>I need to cart a lot of files from a PowerBook to a Windows laptop. The
>>PowerBook has a ZIP drive, and I'm planning to get a ZIP for the Windows
>>machine - are the Mac and PC formats compatible?

peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
>Yes; if you use a PeeCee formatted Zip cart, both the Mac and the Windows
>machine can use it happily.

{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:
>Not exactly but that's what PC exchange is for.  Use a PC formatted one
>(normal FAT or whatever they call it) and it should be fine.

Thanks, both. I'll nip out and get some PC formatted ones. :-)

Ben

-- 
Ben Lovejoy                    | 'To see tomorrow's PC,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk        |  look at today's Macintosh'
http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk |  -- BYTE, Oct 1995
Re: ZIP formats
#355
Author: Peter Ceresole
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:00
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In article <B32662BE966811F21C@195.173.76.4>,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk (Ben Lovejoy) wrote:

>Thanks, both. I'll nip out and get some PC formatted ones. :-)

If you're using Zip Tools 6.x, as supplied with OS 8+, you can do your own
in either format. 

-- 
Peter
Re: ZIP formats
#356
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:00
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peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

>If you're using Zip Tools 6.x, as supplied with OS 8+, you can do your own
>in either format. 

Hmm. A Find File reveals a Zip Tools alias but no Zip Tools app. System
8.1, full install from the Apple CD.

Ben

-- 
Ben Lovejoy                    | 'To see tomorrow's PC,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk        |  look at today's Macintosh'
http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk |  -- BYTE, Oct 1995
Re: ZIP formats
#358
Author: Peter Ceresole
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 00:00
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In article <B3267A4596681778FC@195.173.76.4>,
ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk (Ben Lovejoy) wrote:

>Hmm. A Find File reveals a Zip Tools alias but no Zip Tools app. System
>8.1, full install from the Apple CD.

On my CD-ROM it's in CD Extras->Iomega Tools.

But mine's the G3 CD-ROM, and the machine has a Zip built in. Maybe yours
is the Powerbook version? Probably they only had the license from Iomega if
they were bundling the drive. It would make sense... 

-- 
Peter
Re: ZIP formats
#258
Author: Archie Crawford CES1998
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:00
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Paul Womar wrote:
> 
> Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I need to cart a lot of files from a PowerBook to a Windows laptop. The
> > PowerBook has a ZIP drive, and I'm planning to get a ZIP for the Windows
> > machine - are the Mac and PC formats compatible?
> 
> Not exactly but that's what PC exchange is for.  Use a PC formatted one
> (normal FAT or whatever they call it) and it should be fine.

This is not entirely true.  A PC formated Zip will not work on a Mac
unless it has one of these two versions of the Mac OS 8.1 or 8.5, I am
not sure which version it was that incorparated PC support.  Any Mac OS
7 machine will not be able to use a PC formatted zip, believe me I have
tried.  

The PC exchange works fine for floppy's because the drive is physically
capable or reading a PC formatted disk.  This is the same for the Zip
drive but I think there is somethinmg to do with the drivers, the ones
on the disk or the ones on the system folder.

Archie Crawford
Re: ZIP formats
#259
Author: Peter Ceresole
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:00
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In article <3711AA6C.49057EE5@cs.strath.ac.uk>,
Archie Crawford CES1998 <acrawfor@cs.strath.ac.uk> wrote:

>This is not entirely true.  A PC formated Zip will not work on a Mac
>unless it has one of these two versions of the Mac OS 8.1 or 8.5, I am
>not sure which version it was that incorparated PC support.  Any Mac OS
>7 machine will not be able to use a PC formatted zip, believe me I have
>tried.  

That's not right; I used my Zip drive happily with both Mac and PC
formatted carts, under sys 7.5.2, on a 7500/100, with Zip driver version
5.0.3.

Not only that but I was able to use the same drive and PC cart on an
ancient LC2 at work, running sys 7.1 (I think it was), when clearing out
the content of an old LAN server and transferring it to a PC. I simply
added PC Exchange B1-2.0.5 (which came with sys 7.5.2) to the LC2's
extensions. That's because the sys 8 version B1-2.2.1 won't run on older
Macs.

The only problem was that while 2.2.1 will properly handle long file names
and transfer them correctly to Win95, 2.0.5 won't; however, it truncates
the names quite intelligently.

The sight of that creaking LC2, which had been built before Zips were a
gleam in Iomega's eye (or even before PC Exchange had been issued),
chuntering along copying 6000 files to a PC formatted cart without a single
hesitation or error warmed the heart.... Mind you, it did take a while...

It was all for my favourite film achivist- the Best in the Known Universe.
I was rewarded with a kiss. Indeed, Macs (and Zips) are wonderful things.

-- 
Peter
Re: ZIP formats
#260
Author: Simon Dobbs
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:00
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On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:24:43 +0100, Peter Ceresole wrote
(in message <B337B2AB966830B95@cara.demon.co.uk>):
> The sight of that creaking LC2, which had been built before Zips were a 
> gleam in Iomega's eye (or even before PC Exchange had been issued), 
> chuntering along copying 6000 files to a PC formatted cart without a single 
> hesitation or error warmed the heart.... Mind you, it did take a while... 
> 
> It was all for my favourite film achivist- the Best in the Known Universe. I 
> was rewarded with a kiss. Indeed, Macs (and Zips) are wonderful things. 
I will use this as a baseline charge for the other macuser in this household 
when I provide technical support
your story warmed the cockles of my heart- thanks!
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