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3 total messages Started by Gilles Pelletier Sun, 05 Apr 1998 00:00
Is RedHat playing a joke on us?
#19
Author: Gilles Pelletier
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 00:00
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Ok, I must say that the copy of  RedHat's PowerTools I have is amongst the
first ones on the market, but what a core... a chore on the shore with a
whore it is to install!

First, I made a few errors of my own because I hadn't gone through the
installation manual. To the people you don't appreciate mumbo-jumbo like:

-------------------------
2.3.2 Installing From a CD-ROM

If you have a Red Hat Linux CD-ROM, and your computer has a supported
CD-ROM drive, you should consider this installation method. Installing
directly from CD-ROM is the most straightforward approach. When installing
from CD-ROM, the packages you select are read from the CD-ROM, and are
installed on your hard drive. 

2.3.2.1 How To Do It

As the name implies, you'll need a Red Hat Linux CD-ROM, a supported CD-ROM
drive, and a means of starting the installation program.

(...)

If your Red Hat Linux partitions will be sharing a hard disk with
partitions used by other operating systems, most of the time you'll have no
problems. However, there are certain combinations of Linux and other
operating systems that require extra care.

Information on creating disk partitions compatible with other operating
systems is available in several HOWTOs and Mini-HOWTOs, available on the
Red Hat Linux CD in the doc/HOWTO and doc/HOWTO/mini directories. In
particular, the Mini-HOWTOs whose names start with Linux+ are quite
helpful.

---------------

... to those people, I strongly recommend skipping to section 4.3 of the
installation manual. Rest assured you'll still have enough to read. I'm
positively certain a fairly talented Picarro could boil this down to one
tenth of the size. (I suspect too many tax form writers have been laid off
recently and offered their services at prices RedHat Bob couldn't refuse.)

Then,  to build the kernel, I tried to use the "make" command... which was
nowhere to be found. I then discovered on DejaNews that you had to install
all the C, C++ paraphernalia to get a compiler (and assorted librairies, I
suppose). Of course, this wasn't selected by default when installing.

Then, hours later, great, the command did work! It sent me a "no rule to
make target" message. I went on checking while my tongue was cheeking to
ponder which of the 37 different answers I got from dejaNews and Alta Vista
was the right one. Even Redhat sent me to pages which had absolutely no
relation to the matter and "401s, page not found"! Finally, nothing works.
I'm stuck in a deadlock with the puck in front of the net!

Can someone tell me how to skate my way out of this... and how much time I
can expect to loose absolutely in vain to get Linux installed.

Gilles Pelletier
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La meilleure fa�on de d�fendre les int�r�ts de MS est de faire du �Windows bashing�. Cela emp�che de voir les probl�mes en face.
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Re: Is RedHat playing a joke on us?
#20
Author: Mr Kite
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 00:00
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Bonjour,

Poster un article en anglais sur un groupe fran�ais : 
Snobisme ? exercice de style ? fa�on de montrer ses comp�tences
linguistiques et techniques ? Erreur de cross-post ?

On peut exprimer des concepts informatiques en fran�ais.

Je sais de quoi je parle : je suis traducteur de bouquins
d'informatique.

Laurent  




On Sun, 05 Apr 1998 01:26:57 GMT, gillesp@spamMEnot_mmic.net (Gilles
Pelletier) wrote:

>Ok, I must say that the copy of  RedHat's PowerTools I have is amongst the
>first ones on the market, but what a core... a chore on the shore with a
>whore it is to install!

ETC.
Re: Is RedHat playing a joke on us?
#21
Author: Gilles Pelletier
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 00:00
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mrkite@wanadoo.fr (Mr Kite) wrote:

>Bonjour,
>
>Poster un article en anglais sur un groupe fran�ais : 
>Snobisme ? exercice de style ? fa�on de montrer ses comp�tences
>linguistiques et techniques ? Erreur de cross-post ?

Rien de tout cela. C'est que j'ai �crit l'article en anglais pour
comp.os.linux.misc. On a beau faire, ces maudits am�ricains sont plus
nombreux et ne pigent pas un mot de fran�ais. 

Alors, oui, �videmment, je pourrais traduire, puisque, moi aussi, je fais
de la traduction. Seulement, c�t� informatique, je ne suis pas tr�s fort:
OS en anglais (plus de doc, mises � jour plus rapides, etc.) et pas de dico
sp�cialis� dans ce domaine.

Et puis, disons-le, il y a la flemme. J'�cris beaucoup de messages et je
n'ai pas que cela � faire. Alors, quand vient le temps de traduire, j'ose
croire que les francophones comprennent tout de m�me assez d'anglais pour
me lire.

Derni�rement, j'ai envoy� le m�me message simultann�ment dans les deux
conf�rences en demandant aux gens qui r�pondraient d'effacer la conf�rence
qui ne correspondait pas � leur langue... mais �a n'a pas fonctionn� et des
r�ponses en anglais se sont retrouv�es ici. J'ai r�pondu par courel � ces
messages, mais si j'avais pens� utile de le faire sur les groupes de
discussion, j'aurais �videmment enlev� fr.comp.os.linux.

C'est pourquoi, cette fois, j'ai envoy� des messages s�par�s en esp�rant
qu'un premier message de fil en anglais puisse �tre accept�. J'appr�cie
�videmment recevoir votre opinion, messieurs. Quant au reste, je suis
ABSOLUMENT contre les �fils� en anglais sur des groupes francophones.

J'esp�re que ces quelques explications te rassureront qunat � mes
intentions.


GP
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La meilleure fa�on de d�fendre les int�r�ts de MS est de faire du �Windows bashing�. Cela emp�che de voir les probl�mes en face.
La Masse Critique:
http://www.cam.org/~gp ou http://www.mmic.net/users/gillesp
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