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"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>
>
> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
> persecute a minority in this way."
>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
> night.
>
> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)

So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to 
legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.  This is 
the way its done in the US...
This clown is getting scarier all the time. 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:30:41 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
scriptorium, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
> $"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> $news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> $>
> $>
> $> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
> $> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
> $> persecute a minority in this way."
> $>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
> $> night.
> $>
> $> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
> $
> $So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to 
> $legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.  This is 
> $the way its done in the US...
> $This clown is getting scarier all the time. 

He does back his party's anti-Harper ads--even if one really did piss
off a lot of people in the military.

OK, the military one didn't get broadcast on the media, but it still got
posted briefly on the Liberal Party of Canada website, which for all
intents and purposes is publishing it.

From what I've read about his comments on the last English language
leaders debate (which I missed because I was haning chair rails), it
sounds like he is doing a good job of alienating his federalist
supporters in Quebec.

He's quite happily defending Ralph Goodale.  OK, considering the income
turst matter is still under investigation, and the RCMP hasn't dug up
anything to implicate Goodale at this time.  BTW, SEC did an opinion
poll of 450 Ontario residents, and close to 1/2 think Goodale should
step aside as Finance Minister until this thing is cleared up.

Unless he has a shoe collection like the wife of Imelda Marcos, he must
be running out of size 16s to stick in his mouth by now.

Anyway, there is still a week and a half to go in the campaign.

A lot could happen between now and election day, though Harper did move
fairly quickly to defuse one land mine that could have hurt his campaign
badly--cutting the candidate who is facing court time over some
smuggling charges loose.

Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
     Way by Moonlight.

          -- Oscar Wilde

>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote
> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
> --
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada

It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, Mclellan.

-- 
Cheers.
Alex C.
There are 12,000,000 sheep in Ontario.
Problem is 9,000,000 of them think they are people. 

"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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>
>
> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
> persecute a minority in this way."
>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
> night.
>
> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)

It only applies to minority groups like faggots, the coloured, immigrants, 
and various other POLITICALLY CORRECT cliques.



> 

"Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
> news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>> persecute a minority in this way."
>>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>> night.
>>
>> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>
> So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to 
> legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.  This 
> is the way its done in the US...
> This clown is getting scarier all the time.

Appointments to the US Supreme Court are FAR from being automatic. There are 
various hearings, committees etc etc which must approve. In Canada, ALL IT 
TAKES is the PMO to nominate. THAT is ALL it takes in Canada. No recall, 
either.



>
> 

"John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote in message 
news:imdes1lslbqotde92sehom9jpo08ph5fi1@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:30:41 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
> scriptorium, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
>> $"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> $news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> $>
>> $>
>> $> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>> $> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>> $> persecute a minority in this way."
>> $>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>> $> night.
>> $>
>> $> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>> $
>> $So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to
>> $legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC. 
>> This is
>> $the way its done in the US...
>> $This clown is getting scarier all the time.
>
> He does back his party's anti-Harper ads--even if one really did piss
> off a lot of people in the military.
>
> OK, the military one didn't get broadcast on the media, but it still got
> posted briefly on the Liberal Party of Canada website, which for all
> intents and purposes is publishing it.
>

The military one WAS and IS still being used in Quebec.


> From what I've read about his comments on the last English language
> leaders debate (which I missed because I was haning chair rails), it
> sounds like he is doing a good job of alienating his federalist
> supporters in Quebec.
>
> He's quite happily defending Ralph Goodale.  OK, considering the income
> turst matter is still under investigation, and the RCMP hasn't dug up
> anything to implicate Goodale at this time.  BTW, SEC did an opinion
> poll of 450 Ontario residents, and close to 1/2 think Goodale should
> step aside as Finance Minister until this thing is cleared up.
>
> Unless he has a shoe collection like the wife of Imelda Marcos, he must
> be running out of size 16s to stick in his mouth by now.
>
> Anyway, there is still a week and a half to go in the campaign.
>
> A lot could happen between now and election day, though Harper did move
> fairly quickly to defuse one land mine that could have hurt his campaign
> badly--cutting the candidate who is facing court time over some
> smuggling charges loose.
>
> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
> --
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
>     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
>     Way by Moonlight.
>
>          -- Oscar Wilde 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:42:38 -0500, while chained to a desk in the
scriptorium, "Alex Cunningham" <sly_bacon@hotmail.com> wrote:
> $>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote

> $> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
> $> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
> $> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
> $
> $It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, Mclellan.

Whatever happens, Edmonton Centre will be a very close race.

Two things helping Laurie Hawn are--

  --I understand Conservative support in Alberta is over 60%
  --He seems to have got his campaign running a bit faster

Two things helping McLellan are--

  --Last provincial election, the Liberals just about buried the 
    Conservatives in Edmonton
  --McLellan's lawn signs have been sprouting like mushrooms
    over the last week.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
     Way by Moonlight.

          -- Oscar Wilde

"John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote in message 
news:41jes1dfvan7fo6s0inm0ic8trvn5b2h9e@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:42:38 -0500, while chained to a desk in the
> scriptorium, "Alex Cunningham" <sly_bacon@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> $>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote
>
>> $> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of 
>> the
>> $> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
>> $> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
>> $
>> $It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, 
>> Mclellan.
>
> Whatever happens, Edmonton Centre will be a very close race.
>
> Two things helping Laurie Hawn are--
>
>  --I understand Conservative support in Alberta is over 60%
>  --He seems to have got his campaign running a bit faster
>
> Two things helping McLellan are--
>
>  --Last provincial election, the Liberals just about buried the
>    Conservatives in Edmonton
>  --McLellan's lawn signs have been sprouting like mushrooms
>    over the last week.

It disgusts me that ANYONE would vote LIEbrawl federally ANYWHERE.

> --
> John Fleming
> Edmonton, Canada
>
>     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
>     Way by Moonlight.
>
>          -- Oscar Wilde 

I have to laugh at all this turmoil over "Soldiers with guns. In our
cities."

We have police with guns in our cities.
We don't have ENOUGH of them, so wouldn't this be extra protection from
crime, etc?
Pretty much every other country in the world provides an armed protective
presence of some kind.
What are they going to do? Burst into our homes, take away our rights and
freedoms and seize/ban all weapons?
Aren't the politicians doing that anyway?

I stay a long way from politics and such, because they're laughable. If they
combined all of their GOOD ideas, and did away with the silly 'balance'
system they have now, things would get done. But that just ain't gonna
happen.

So I'll keep laughing. I know too many young people that went into politics
ripe for change and full of ideas and eagerness, only to get beaten into
line with the system.

In article <41jes1dfvan7fo6s0inm0ic8trvn5b2h9e@4ax.com>,
John Fleming  <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:42:38 -0500, while chained to a desk in the
>scriptorium, "Alex Cunningham" <sly_bacon@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> $>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote
>
>> $> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
>> $> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
>> $> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
>> $
>> $It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, Mclellan.
>
>Whatever happens, Edmonton Centre will be a very close race.
>
>Two things helping Laurie Hawn are--
>
>  --I understand Conservative support in Alberta is over 60%
>  --He seems to have got his campaign running a bit faster
>
>Two things helping McLellan are--
>
>  --Last provincial election, the Liberals just about buried the 
>    Conservatives in Edmonton
>  --McLellan's lawn signs have been sprouting like mushrooms
>    over the last week.

3 for both!!

Hawn sends attack envelope on AM

Liberal Attack Ads on Defence is a blunder!
-- 
Member - Liberal International	
This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca	Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca
God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Canada :  Consider carefully whom to vote for on 23 Jan 2006, I choose Liberal!

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:26:36 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:30:41 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
>scriptorium, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
>> $"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>> $news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> $>
>> $>
>> $> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>> $> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>> $> persecute a minority in this way."
>> $>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>> $> night.
>> $>
>> $> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>> $
>> $So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to 
>> $legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.  This is 
>> $the way its done in the US...
>> $This clown is getting scarier all the time. 
>
>He does back his party's anti-Harper ads--even if one really did piss
>off a lot of people in the military.

Strike 1:

I'm too freaking stupid to raise my children without government
interference and that I'll spend Harper's $1200 on beer and popcorn. 

Strike 2:

I am responsible for the gang violence and death in Toronto because I
am a "so-called" gun collector. 

Strike 3:

I am a threat to all Canadian citizen's because I am a soldier. 

I know when I am not wanted. What to do? Where should I move?





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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:42:38 -0500, "Alex Cunningham"
<sly_bacon@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote
>> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
>> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
>> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
>> --
>> John Fleming
>> Edmonton, Canada
>
>It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, Mclellan.

You have insulted Harridans every where...



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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:07:10 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>> persecute a minority in this way."
>>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>> night.
>>
>> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>
>It only applies to minority groups like faggots, the coloured, immigrants, 
>and various other POLITICALLY CORRECT cliques.

It doesn't apply to members of these groups who own guns..



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> OK, the military one didn't get broadcast on the media, but it still got
> posted briefly on the Liberal Party of Canada website, which for all
> intents and purposes is publishing it.
>
> From what I've read about his comments on the last English language
> leaders debate (which I missed because I was haning chair rails), it
> sounds like he is doing a good job of alienating his federalist
> supporters in Quebec.
>
The military ad ran on teh French networks...talk about intimadating Quebec, 
trying to bring back memories of teh FLQ/War Measures Act.

It was umourous to hear Keith Martin, Lib MP for Comox Valley, BC (large 
military base there), saying "some idiot approved of the ad" and then 
hearing Paul Martin saying he approved the ad.  Well I guess we now know who 
the Village Idiot is...

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:13:11 GMT, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com>
wrote:

>> OK, the military one didn't get broadcast on the media, but it still got
>> posted briefly on the Liberal Party of Canada website, which for all
>> intents and purposes is publishing it.
>>
>> From what I've read about his comments on the last English language
>> leaders debate (which I missed because I was haning chair rails), it
>> sounds like he is doing a good job of alienating his federalist
>> supporters in Quebec.
>>
>The military ad ran on teh French networks...talk about intimadating Quebec, 
>trying to bring back memories of teh FLQ/War Measures Act.
>
>It was umourous to hear Keith Martin, Lib MP for Comox Valley, BC (large 
>military base there), saying "some idiot approved of the ad" and then 
>hearing Paul Martin saying he approved the ad.  Well I guess we now know who 
>the Village Idiot is...
>

I do have to stick up for Mr. Martin, Ottawa is NOT a village!



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<10x@telu�s.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:26:36 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:30:41 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
> >scriptorium, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
> >> $"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> $news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> $>
> >> $>
> >> $> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
> >> $> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
> >> $> persecute a minority in this way."
> >> $>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
> >> $> night.
> >> $>
> >> $> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
> >> $
> >> $So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to
> >> $legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.
This is
> >> $the way its done in the US...
> >> $This clown is getting scarier all the time.
> >
> >He does back his party's anti-Harper ads--even if one really did piss
> >off a lot of people in the military.
>
> Strike 1:
>
> I'm too freaking stupid to raise my children without government
> interference and that I'll spend Harper's $1200 on beer and popcorn.
>
> Strike 2:
>
> I am responsible for the gang violence and death in Toronto because I
> am a "so-called" gun collector.
>
> Strike 3:
>
> I am a threat to all Canadian citizen's because I am a soldier.
>
> I know when I am not wanted. What to do? Where should I move?
>
>
>
>
>
> take the � out of 10x@telu�s.net to email me

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:55:15 -0400, while chained to a desk in the
scriptorium, "Troy Jollimore" <tjollimore@nospam.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> $I have to laugh at all this turmoil over "Soldiers with guns. In our
> $cities."
> $
> $We have police with guns in our cities.

Excellent point.

Except for the occasional check stop, you don't see people going through
police checkpoints on their way to and from work and being being
demanded to produce papers to verify their identity.

> $We don't have ENOUGH of them, so wouldn't this be extra protection from
> $crime, etc?

Agreed.  We are short something like 1,000 people to fill emply RCMP
positions.

I was going to say we should ask the Liberal Party of Canada why these
positions aren't filled, then I remembered, they don't want people with
guns on our streets.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
     Way by Moonlight.

          -- Oscar Wilde

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:13:11 GMT, while chained to a desk in the
scriptorium, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com> wrote:

> $The military ad ran on teh French networks...talk about intimadating Quebec, 
> $trying to bring back memories of teh FLQ/War Measures Act.
> $
> $It was umourous to hear Keith Martin, Lib MP for Comox Valley, BC (large 
> $military base there), saying "some idiot approved of the ad" and then 
> $hearing Paul Martin saying he approved the ad.  Well I guess we now know who 
> $the Village Idiot is...

I LOVE IT!!!

I guess, in the event the Liberals do form anothe rminority government
after the election, Keith Martin can kiss any kind of a cabinet position
good-bye.  That's probably a good thing because it might keep him out of
more serious trouble.
--
John Fleming
Edmonton, Canada

     A Dreamer is One Who Can Only Find Her
     Way by Moonlight.

          -- Oscar Wilde

"John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote in message 
news:murgs11cvr2df8js23q1r5vbho8rgs4ov6@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 08:55:15 -0400, while chained to a desk in the
> scriptorium, "Troy Jollimore" <tjollimore@nospam.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> $I have to laugh at all this turmoil over "Soldiers with guns. In our
>> $cities."
>> $
>> $We have police with guns in our cities.
>
> Excellent point.
>
> Except for the occasional check stop, you don't see people going through
> police checkpoints on their way to and from work and being being
> demanded to produce papers to verify their identity.
>
>> $We don't have ENOUGH of them, so wouldn't this be extra protection from
>> $crime, etc?
>
> Agreed.  We are short something like 1,000 people to fill emply RCMP
> positions.
>
> I was going to say we should ask the Liberal Party of Canada why these
> positions aren't filled, then I remembered, they don't want people with
> guns on our streets.
> --
The lie_berals would know:  they were the ones that cut all the RCMP 
positions back in the mid-90's..same time they did in the military .... 

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:46:40 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
wrote:


>
>Whatever happens, Edmonton Centre will be a very close race.

Well it shouldn't be. The LIBERALS ARE CORRUPT, what in hell more do
people need to know. 

>
>Two things helping Laurie Hawn are--
>
>  --I understand Conservative support in Alberta is over 60%
>  --He seems to have got his campaign running a bit faster
>
>Two things helping McLellan are--
>
>  --Last provincial election, the Liberals just about buried the 
>    Conservatives in Edmonton

And Alberta got exactly what since the witch got in?? the reality is
she is useless in government so why are we wasting are time on someone
that loves to kiss ass instead of kick it??

>  --McLellan's lawn signs have been sprouting like mushrooms
>    over the last week.

magic mushrooms? We will sure need them if she gets in again.....

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:47:58 GMT, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com>
wrote:


>> --
>The lie_berals would know:  they were the ones that cut all the RCMP 
>positions back in the mid-90's..same time they did in the military .... 

yeah, I remember how pleased cretain was with himself. I suppose it
left the country free for CORRUPTION. 

>

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:08:21 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:


>
>Appointments to the US Supreme Court are FAR from being automatic. There are 
>various hearings, committees etc etc which must approve. In Canada, ALL IT 
>TAKES is the PMO to nominate. THAT is ALL it takes in Canada. No recall, 
>either.

And that is why they back up and push legislation that the PM says.
What power we have given them have we not?

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:17:11 GMT, Sew <sewbeit@nosuchaddress.ca> wrote:

|>On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:08:21 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
|>wrote:
|>
|>
|>>
|>>Appointments to the US Supreme Court are FAR from being automatic. There are 
|>>various hearings, committees etc etc which must approve. In Canada, ALL IT 
|>>TAKES is the PMO to nominate. THAT is ALL it takes in Canada. No recall, 
|>>either.
|>
|>And that is why they back up and push legislation that the PM says.
|>What power we have given them have we not?

	It's such a dictatorship like some european jazz, which is even crawling
up the Swiss.

1] Lieberal recumbent still spouting off a handgun ban, and some organization
like ISU, will bow to the little supreme court 'bargains' like making shooters
cover their bolt to enter competition...therefore alleviating potential range
hazards...to feed Carl Walthers and the Kreever Group of 9...

2] CPC Harper wants military in the city for a city, or  wants to send them on a
trip to a foreign country so they can play there. As for the City infiltration,
guess what that means...gungrabs and selected, obedient, kids to run the show...

Bob


Triad Productions-Fantalla(c)~EZine~ParaNovel
National Association of Assault Research
http://ammo.at/lacasse http://reachme.at/bob

"Sew" <sewbeit@nosuchaddress.ca> wrote in message 
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> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:47:58 GMT, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> --
>>The lie_berals would know:  they were the ones that cut all the RCMP
>>positions back in the mid-90's..same time they did in the military ....
>
> yeah, I remember how pleased cretain was with himself. I suppose it
> left the country free for CORRUPTION.
>
no he cut the RCMP positions so he'd have a better chance of getting away 
scot-free...lol 

"Sew" <sewbeit@nosuchaddress.ca> wrote in message 
news:8dehs191fmck66jtcbcuf78ced68ejbgkk@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:46:40 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Whatever happens, Edmonton Centre will be a very close race.
>
> Well it shouldn't be. The LIBERALS ARE CORRUPT, what in hell more do
> people need to know.
>
>>
>>Two things helping Laurie Hawn are--
>>
>>  --I understand Conservative support in Alberta is over 60%
>>  --He seems to have got his campaign running a bit faster
>>
>>Two things helping McLellan are--
>>
>>  --Last provincial election, the Liberals just about buried the
>>    Conservatives in Edmonton
>
> And Alberta got exactly what since the witch got in?? the reality is
> she is useless in government so why are we wasting are time on someone
> that loves to kiss ass instead of kick it??
>

Annies past success will be exactly like the Atlantic area "may" be in this 
election.  The sheep will re-elect the mafia, there will be a Conservative 
government in Ottawa, and the Maritimews will once agian be intentionally 
forgotten.  When will we learn??

On 12 Jan 2006 19:16:08 -0800, "Lone Ghost"
<ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
>"The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>persecute a minority in this way."
>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>night.
>
>(Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)

Yeah, apparently it doesn't apply to the criminal minority either.
Terrible, isn't it!

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:26:36 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
wrote:

>> $So Martin thinks its ok for un-elected, political appointed judges to 
>> $legislate laws?  Thats  what he's proposing...uploading to the SCC.  This is 
>> $the way its done in the US...
>> $This clown is getting scarier all the time. 
>
>He does back his party's anti-Harper ads--even if one really did piss
>off a lot of people in the military.

That ad was probably planted by a Harper mole.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:08:58 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The military one WAS and IS still being used in Quebec.

Only to advance the homosexual agenda.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:08:21 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Appointments to the US Supreme Court are FAR from being automatic. There are 
>various hearings, committees etc etc which must approve. In Canada, ALL IT 
>TAKES is the PMO to nominate. THAT is ALL it takes in Canada. No recall, 
>either.

Far better system, isn't it! No wasting taxpayer money on endless
boring hearings with half-asleep senators.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:07:10 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>> persecute a minority in this way."
>>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>> night.
>>
>> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>
>It only applies to minority groups like faggots, the coloured, immigrants, 
>and various other POLITICALLY CORRECT cliques.
>
Aw, you poor lonely boy, you're such an asshole that you don't have
any friends? Feel leftout, so you take solace in bigotry. Does your
bedspread have a swastika?

That would apply if owning a gun was a right. But it is not.
This is why the talk about including property rights would get the
govenment out of the shooting ranges of the public. But then would it
not give peopel a right to own land, and houses, and if they didn't
have any, would it not be the government's job to make sure they had
that right? I don't know, property rights get messy. Just look at
divorce!

No, Judges do not make law, they just ensure that existing legislation
does not break the highest law in the land - the Constitution. If it
does, then they have the power to strike it down.

Example, a government uses legislation to execute people named Jack,
and begins executing people named Jack, legally. Then it goes to the
supreme court and they determine that this law conflicts with rights
imposed under the charter of rights, so they strike the law down, and
they can't execute people named Jack anymore.

However if the constitution said Jacks are excluded, they could still
kill you, because there is nothing the almighty, un-elected  judges
could do to over-ride the constitution.

However there is something any government can do to overide the
constitution, invoke the notwithstanding clause. So as you see the
ultimate power is not with the courts, nor the constitution, but with
any immoral or corrupt government of the day.

This is why we need to ammend the constitution so it can't be perverted
by a seasonal government. It's about the only good idea Martin has had
all campaign.
And it may just be the hardest part to change, as if you already have
power, are you going to allow a situation where a constitution could
overide your power?

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:40:10 -0500, looie <johnl@999queen.west> wrote:

|>On 12 Jan 2006 19:16:08 -0800, "Lone Ghost"
|><ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote:
|>
|>>
|>>
|>>"The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
|>>taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
|>>persecute a minority in this way."
|>>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
|>>night.
|>>
|>>(Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
|>
|>Yeah, apparently it doesn't apply to the criminal minority either.
|>Terrible, isn't it!

	"criminal minority" leading conjecture...........OVER RULED, unless it's
a 'das kriminalen' context...

P. Kearns


 
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http://ammo.at/lacasse http://reachme.at/bob

"looie" <johnl@999queen.west> wrote in message 
news:mmvis1dmj1lfds6hh9c4j9amgvc047oj9d@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:07:10 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lone Ghost" <ghosts_walk_alone@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1137122168.835170.62840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
>>> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
>>> persecute a minority in this way."
>>>                                  Quoted from his CBC town hall last
>>> night.
>>>
>>> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
>>
>>It only applies to minority groups like faggots, the coloured, immigrants,
>>and various other POLITICALLY CORRECT cliques.
>>
> Aw, you poor lonely boy, you're such an asshole that you don't have
> any friends? Feel leftout, so you take solace in bigotry. Does your
> bedspread have a swastika?

YOUR bedspread probably resembles canvas, thanks to whacking off being your 
only sexual outlet.

Is it possible that the Libs believe that this registry is only to help prevent
gun crimes?  (and that it in no way "persecutes" honest law-abiding gun
owners)?

Personally I agree with the principle if only applied to handguns &
semi-automatic & higher rifles, but I can't recall the last time anyone
attempted to rob a bank or 7-11 with a deer rifle!  So why is it necessary for
those up north and other remote areas to register their rifles & shotguns,
except to have a list of people to confiscate these potential last defenses
from when the government goes real bad?


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"G> 
"G> 
"G> "The Charter of Rights is about preventing the majority from
"G> taking away the rights of a minority. The Government should not
"G> persecute a minority in this way."
"G>                                   Quoted from his CBC town hall last
"G> night.
"G> 
"G> (Apparently this rule does not apply to gun owners.)
"G> 
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:21:57 GMT, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com>
wrote:


>
>Annies past success will be exactly like the Atlantic area "may" be in this 
>election.  The sheep will re-elect the mafia, there will be a Conservative 
>government in Ottawa, and the Maritimews will once agian be intentionally 
>forgotten.  When will we learn??

All the more reason to GET ANNIE OUT....she never accomplished
anything for the people. She was always to busy SPEAKING FOR ALL
CANADIANS....
>
>

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:19:57 GMT, "Jack" <bigcletus@yahoo.com.com>
wrote:


>>
>no he cut the RCMP positions so he'd have a better chance of getting away 
>scot-free...lol 

I agree...I agree....LOL.....

>

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:44:03 -0500, looie <johnl@999queen.west> wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:08:21 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Appointments to the US Supreme Court are FAR from being automatic. There are 
>>various hearings, committees etc etc which must approve. In Canada, ALL IT 
>>TAKES is the PMO to nominate. THAT is ALL it takes in Canada. No recall, 
>>either.
>
>Far better system, isn't it! No wasting taxpayer money on endless
>boring hearings with half-asleep senators.

Exactly and THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS that HAS to change. It is
2006..time to SIT BACK and TAKE A REALLY HARD LOOK AT WHAT trudeau,
cretain and MARTIN have done over the last number of years and figure
out HOW to make politicians more accountable for the money they get in
salary and their jobs. Political FREEBIES have to end.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:20:24 +0000 (UTC), gapope@vcn.bc.ca wrote:

>Is it possible that the Libs believe that this registry is only to help prevent
>gun crimes?  (and that it in no way "persecutes" honest law-abiding gun
>owners)?
>
>Personally I agree with the principle if only applied to handguns &
>semi-automatic & higher rifles, but I can't recall the last time anyone
>attempted to rob a bank or 7-11 with a deer rifle!  So why is it necessary for
>those up north and other remote areas to register their rifles & shotguns,
>except to have a list of people to confiscate these potential last defenses
>from when the government goes real bad?

Paul Martin screws Alberta and farmers....was it done out of spite???
Makes one wonder which province or territory does have the most
weapons....HONEST WEAPONS not the illegal U.S. ones....

>>>John Fleming" <nospam@sprynet.com> wrote
>>> Right now, I think the absolute best rabbit Martin could pull out of the
>>> hat is another Liberal minority government.  And I have a feeling that
>>> he might need to count on a couple of good Tory screw-ups to get that.
>>> --
>>> John Fleming
>>> Edmonton, Canada

>>"Alex Cunningham" wrote:
>>It would help if your fellow citizens could dump that harridan, Mclellan.

><10x@telu�s.net> wrote
> You have insulted Harridans every where...

Only the Lieberal ones, and they are fair game after all. ;-)

-- 
Cheers.
Alex C.
There are 12,000,000 sheep in Ontario.
Problem is 9,000,000 of them think they are people. 

Sew wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:20:24 +0000 (UTC), gapope@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
>
> >Is it possible that the Libs believe that this registry is only to help prevent
> >gun crimes?  (and that it in no way "persecutes" honest law-abiding gun
> >owners)?
> >
> >Personally I agree with the principle if only applied to handguns &
> >semi-automatic & higher rifles, but I can't recall the last time anyone
> >attempted to rob a bank or 7-11 with a deer rifle!  So why is it necessary for
> >those up north and other remote areas to register their rifles & shotguns,
> >except to have a list of people to confiscate these potential last defenses
> >from when the government goes real bad?
>
> Paul Martin screws Alberta and farmers....was it done out of spite???
> Makes one wonder which province or territory does have the most
> weapons....HONEST WEAPONS not the illegal U.S. ones....

Almost certainly Ontario or Quebec. Demography and geography  suggest
this.  The per captia ownership is another matter.

Well, he sort of looks like one.

"Al Smith" <invalid@address.com> wrote in message 
news:icRyf.156892$Ph4.4764761@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> Well, he sort of looks like one.

Ok, lay off the Harry Potter for a while.   It seems to be getting to you. 
;o)

Gabby 

>>Well, he sort of looks like one.
> 
> 
> Ok, lay off the Harry Potter for a while.   It seems to be getting to you. 
> ;o)
> 
> Gabby 

I think it's the nose. :-)

"Defender of Enormous Manhood" <Defenderofenormousmanhood@rogers.com> wrote 
in message news:1137279599.956067.113710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> No, Judges do not make law, they just ensure that existing legislation
> does not break the highest law in the land - the Constitution. If it
> does, then they have the power to strike it down.

When EXISTING law is an ass, like the stuff the LIEbrawls all to often RAM 
through Parliament, IMPARTIAL judges SHOULD strike it down. Of course if the 
assholes on the Supreme Court are dopplegangers of the asshole LIEbrawls in 
the Commons, what do you expect, other that the fucking bullshit SCOC 
decisions we have being getting?




>
> Example, a government uses legislation to execute people named Jack,
> and begins executing people named Jack, legally. Then it goes to the
> supreme court and they determine that this law conflicts with rights
> imposed under the charter of rights, so they strike the law down, and
> they can't execute people named Jack anymore.
>
> However if the constitution said Jacks are excluded, they could still
> kill you, because there is nothing the almighty, un-elected  judges
> could do to over-ride the constitution.
>
> However there is something any government can do to overide the
> constitution, invoke the notwithstanding clause. So as you see the
> ultimate power is not with the courts, nor the constitution, but with
> any immoral or corrupt government of the day.
>
> This is why we need to ammend the constitution so it can't be perverted
> by a seasonal government. It's about the only good idea Martin has had
> all campaign.
> And it may just be the hardest part to change, as if you already have
> power, are you going to allow a situation where a constitution could
> overide your power?
>