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Re: Ban Religious Bigots

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From: Ted Rosenberg
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 00:00
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Elric of Imrryr wrote:
> 
> In article <35ED46CB.1B00@swbell.net>, tracey12@swbell.net says...
> > Elric of Imrryr wrote:
> > > Also life extension research is generally
> > > harassed by the gov't, but that is purely financial (screws up social security
> > > if people live longer then predicted).
> >
> > It would be interesting to see some proof of this.  Ive always thought
> > that this may be the case, but I have no proof.
> >
> Well I don't have the motivation to dig up the info, but you can look into the
> FDA cases vs a foundation in Florida called the life extension foundation,
> where the FDA went as far as threating to jail the owners of the company that
> printed their newsletters, to cases where people where arrested for ordering
> DHEA by the postal service (DHEA is a legal suppliment, but the USPS occasional
> will arrest buyers for drug smuggling because under a broad difination DHEA is
> a steriod).
> 
> It is really braoder then just social security. There is a lot of opposition
> from the pharmaceutical industry and even entire nations (Germany is lobbying
> for a world wide ban on OTC high dose vitamins because they cut into the sales
> of german drug companies (this under consideration by the WTO).
> 
> The medical community does not like it because self-medication takes away from
> their profits. Sickness, death, and pain are big money makers.

You also have a problem in that most of these organizations are
out-and-out frauds.  I am not insured, so I don't just accept what a
doctor says - I do LOTS of research before I take any medicine or have
any tests .  I am paying for it out of my own pocket, and I don't have
money to waste.

as an elderly diabetic I get tons of mail from frauds willing to promise
anything.  I also have a Dyslexic son, so I get the usual tons of trash
from everyone from Chiropractors to herb merchants.  I was an officer of
a Life Insurance Company for 18 years, and, I can assure you, that if
any of that stuff was real - The Life Insurance companies would pay for
the research.  The biggest boons to Life Insurance Company profits in
the last 20 years were CPR and the Heimlich Maneuver.  Next was the
training of para-medics and last, the development of Shock-Trauma
centers.

Now, let us suppose that you are a typical con man, and the FDA shuts
you down - What are you going to say "It was a great scam while it
lasted' NO you are going to say "They are out to get me !"

Even the "little white lies"  For example St. John's Wort is being sold
as a cure for just about anything except bad credit.  In fact the ONLY
study that shows ANYTHING has a very slight possibility that it may be
of some help with advanced Alzheimer's.  Everything else I has seen haS
either been taken badly out of context, is purely anecdotal, or, is out
and out fraudulent.
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From: Ted Rosenberg <tedrosenberg@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Ban Religious Bigots
Date: 1998/09/03
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