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"Verne" <Verne@whitetrashcafe.com> wrote in message
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> > > > >> Another conspiracy nut
> > > > >
> > > > >How so?  Even the most limited observational powers and
comprehension
> > of
> > > > >logic will allow one to see that any politician and/or
> > > bureaucracy -will-,
> > > > >when given the proverbial inch, take the proverbial mile.
> > > > >
> > > > >If you don't/can't/won't see this, it doesn't say much for you,
does
> > it?
> > > >
> > > > It's the same in the UK, btw.  The PM is openly speaking against
> > > > thw whole idea of human rights and is, for example, demanding the
> power
> > > > to  imprison political prisoners indefinitely without trial.  The
only
> > > > thing stopping him is the fact that he has signed a human rights
> > > > convention preventing things like that, but I doubt if that will
stop
> > him.
> > > >
> > > > He did say that the UK authorities did not need greater powers
> > > > to spy on British subjects using mobile phones or the internet.
> > > > That is true - they have total power to do that now.  Blanket
> > > > surveillance is legal.  No warrant required.  No suspicion of
> > > > criminal activity required.  Blanket surveillance on any or all
> > > > of the population.
> > >
> > > Ok to both of you, your [sic] making the point that this terrorist act
> is
> > a plot
> > > to take away individual freedom from the western nations of the UK and
> the
> > > USA. Making the point that some freedom may suffer a temporary setback
> > due
> > > to this act of war is not making that point. You need to show a
> connection
> > > between our governments and the bombing. Your idle speculation is
> mindless
> > > and useless
> >
> > I made NO such point.  I'm using my eyes and brain to SEE exactly what
> human
> > nature and -power- does to someone in power.
> >
> > I need make no such connection, either as it isn't relevant to my
comment.
> > Nor was this relevant to your "another conspiracy nut" comment.
> >
> > >  Make that point or admit your [sic] just spouting b.s.
> >
> > You just can't stand that someone saw through your BS.
>
> You can not and will never show a conspiracy. In other words you have no
> point to make so you went off in another direction.

Damn.  I was not trying to show a conspiracy.  I was deriding your idea that
there -was- a conspiracy.  What was so difficult about that?

> So is your claim now that this terrorist activity may have coincidentally
> caused a loss of personally freedom?

Absolutely.  Those in power used this as an excuse to gain -more- power.

> And that some in power may like this?  Who are these people and why would
> they do this?

Because they are human.  Humans DO that.

> Do they have a dark purpose?

Probably not, beyond the garnering of more power.

>  Are they involved with the terrorists in some way?
>
> Nobody on this thread seems able to stick to a point. Try making one and
> back it up, if not with facts at lest with reason

Of all those IN this thread, the only one bouncing around without direction
is YOU.