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"joe" <joebird_11@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:bp6qhi$13sp$1@news.wplus.net...
> yes they could have done the raid in a private school too, had the
principal
> invited them in to do it ( as is the case in the S.C. school) the
difference
> is that in a private school the principal would have to answer to angery
> parents.

Don't public school principals have to answer to parents too? Or at least to
the school board, who the parents elected?

> "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2xytb.23659$jL1.20891@newssvr25.news.prodigy.com...
> > They could have done this raid in a private school too.
> >
> >
> > "rex" <rexy@ij.net> wrote in message
> news:3fb64961_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
> > > As an attorney, I believe that government schools should be
> > unconstitutional
> > > under the Fourth Amendment ban of unreasonable searches. The recent
> > > police-state raid in Goose Creek, South Carolina is another in the
> growing
> > > list of proofs (with more at http://rexcurry.net).
> > >
> > > Government schools have a special exemption under the 4th Amendment, a
> > > lowered standard that promotes police-state raids. A raid was caught
on
> > > videotape when gun-toting police burst into a high school, ordering
> > students
> > > to lie flat on their stomachs in hall ways as they searched for drugs
on
> > > Nov. 7, 2003. Police handcuffed anyone who apparently didn't comply
> > quickly
> > > enough. The tape showed police waving their guns and searching
lockers.
> > >
> > > Worse still, the media reports that the school maintains constant
video
> > > surveillance of students through various cameras available to police.
> > >
> > > During my legal career, parents have asked me if it is wise (or
> > > constitutional) for government to control everyone's education.
> > >
> > > Government schools create milquetoasts in the same way that Cuban
> schools
> > > create socialists. That is why parents leave their own children in
> > > government schools with constant video surveillance and police-state
> > > tactics. Government schools in the U.S. are different only in degree
> from
> > > schools in the former U.S.S.R.
> > >
> > > The 4th amendment should be improved to specifically include "schools"
> > with
> > > the same high standard given to homes. Of course, the only real
solution
> > is
> > > to end government schools. Many parents have already rescued their
> > children
> > > from government schools in favor of the many better alternatives.
> > >
> > > The U.S. did not have government schools when the Fourth (and First)
> > > Amendment was written. If the authors of the Constitution had foreseen
> the
> > > government's education monstrosity then the Fourth Amendment would
have
> > > included government schools, and the First Amendment would have banned
> > > Congress from the establishment of religion and education.
> > >
> > > The Constitution should be amended to include "education" next to
> > > "religion." The separation of school and state is as important as the
> > > separation of church and state. And for the same ideological reasons.
> The
> > > proposed constitutional amendment is discussed in detail at
> > > http://rexcurry.net .
> > >
> > > Even if an excuse could be made for the initial creation of some
> > government
> > > schools, their ongoing existence is proof of their ongoing failure to
> > > educate people to handle their own (or their childrens') educations
> > without
> > > government schools.
> > >
> > > The Post And Courier newspaper in Charleston reports that Goose Creek
> high
> > > school is one of the largest in the state with 2,760 students. It has
an
> > > academic reputation as one of the Low country's best. But that doesn't
> > show
> > > from the subservient comments of the students and parents.
> > >
> > > The media reported that "the commando-style raid has parents
questioning
> > the
> > > wisdom of police tactics." It is sad that no media reported that the
> raid
> > > has parents questioning the wisdom of government schools. And that is
> more
> > > proof that government schools are dangerous and must end.
> > >
> > > A media outlet reported that a parent said "I was just upset knowing
> they
> > > had guns put to their head and a K9 was barking at them and about to
> bite
> > > somebody. It was awful." Only through years of government schooling
can
> a
> > > parent say such a statement and not announce that she is withdrawing
her
> > > student from government schools. She did not even question the
> > > constitutionality of government schools per se.
> > >
> > > As if that weren't bad enough, the media reports that parents and
> students
> > > are already aware, and have done nothing about, the school's constant
> > video
> > > surveillance available to police. The paper quoted a law enforcement
> > officer
> > > as saying that he watched school surveillance tapes from four days
that
> > > showed students congregating under various cameras, allegedly to avoid
> > being
> > > filmed. "They know where the cameras are. If they stand directly under
> > them,
> > > the camera's don't look directly down," the law enforcement officer
told
> a
> > > paper.
> > >
> > > The 4th amendment states "The right of the people to be secure in
their
> > > persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches
and
> > > seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
> > > probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
> > > describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be
> > > seized."
> > >
> > > Police didn't find any criminals in the armed sweep nor any drugs.
Goose
> > > Creek police and school administrators defended the draconian measures
> as
> > > necessary for crime prevention.
> > >
> > > For other reasons why government schools are unconstitutional see
> > >
> > > http://rexcurry.net
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > > http://members.ij.net/rex/schoolsmain.html
> > >
> > > (For more ideas on liberty and libertarianism see
> > http://members.ij.net/rex
> > > and http://rexcurry.net from Rex Curry at rexy@ij.net or
> > > ecurry@interaccess.net or rexatious@hotmail.com).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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