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In article <366320CB.40DFDF18@clark.net>,
  klaatu@clark.net wrote:
> a_jabberwock@hotmail.com wrote:
> >

> > My current enviroment seems great, so what is your proof?
>
> You evidently live in some blessed enclave which is removed not only from the
> rest of the world, but from even news of the rest of the world.

I live in Denver, CO. We get world news here, if you failed to realize it.

> Please don't presume to sit in Eden and taunt the rest of us who have to live
> in the Real World.

Where do you live, and why is it the "real world", and Colorado is not?

> In other words, "it's the world, the _whole world_, not your blessed little
> half-acre of heaven or whatever.

We'll, I've been all over Central and North America, and Asia, and have seen
lots of poor people, but the overpopulation stems from being poor and
undeveloped, not the other way around. Maybe you should open your eyes a
little, yourself.

> Hmmm. Africa.

Thats right, how have Catholics caused Africa's problems?

> dogmas must change with the times or they get run over by karmas.

Cute, but karma is not a Catholic term, although your embracing of a religious
Ideals is heartening.

> > Because the poor overpopulated non-Catholic countries are worse off than the
> > poor overpopulated Catholic countries, if you blame Catholics without any
> > statistical proof I can certainly praise them with some statistical proof.
>
> I think you are mixing attributions here?

I am only pointing out that Catholisism cannot be blamed for a problem that
is more prevelant in other religions, it is the unreasoning attack on
Catholisism that you are supporting that lacks attributions that can
withstand any scrutiny.

> > Actually, the only 100% sure method of birth control is OK with the Pope, is
> > it not?
>
> Ah yes! And those who have the capability to remain chaste fail to breed to
> pass on that trait! And in a few generations, the capability has utterly
> vanished from the species! Just like the passenger pigeon, the chaste will
> vanish and what will be left in their place will be stupid humans that can't
> keep it in their pants, who will have been, while the chaste eliminated
> themselves from the gene-pool, bred like freakin' rats.

This is nature at work, and not Catholic only trait. Also I am puzzled by your
claim that breeding causes stupidity.

> Oh, and don't forget, since the intelligentsia are always steered into a
> celibate priesthood, the fastbreeding chasteness-incapables will also be a
> little bit short on inherent intelligence.

Not true at all, intelligence is not a factor in choosing priesthood, unless
you are claiming it is obvious to you that priests are more intelligent than
most?

> Is that what you _really_ want?

What I really want has little bearing on reality for the rest of the world,
but to blame that reality on the Pope, is that what you really want?

> what the hell does Chris' past have to do with

Chris likes to blame people today for the acts of the long dead, I was just
wondering what his heritage was that is so free of evil deeds? Or maybe he
just suffers guilt by association with his past. Either way, I just want to
know where he's comming from. Why does inquiring about someones heritage
offend you so?

> the fact that religious
> organizations (especially where linked to government) are essentially control
> organizations, maintaining the place of the elite by keeping the poor
> barefoot, pregnant, deluded and impoverished?

This is only a small part of what a some religious or political or cultural
groups do, even what ever ones you feel allegiance to. It is a natural rsult
of any group seeking to better itself. The fact that you veiw the Catholic
Church today through this very limited filter speaks volumes of your motives
here.

> Obviously not, no Jesuit would have for a moment stood for any of your
> argumentative ploys.

So you are a Jesuit, or you just blowing smoke? Argumentative ploys are a part
of every political group, especially those seeking to increase their power.

It takes a certain kind of person to single out one group for attack, you
picked the Catholics. Why?

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