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Article #479Re: The singles scene-does it have to be so confusing?
From: Mark Evans
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:00
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:00
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George (smooth@aloha.net) wrote: : Not yet... it was the other poster. : It would be rather difficult to use historical examples when all written material remains from ... who?... : the Church. Of course they adjusted reality a "little" to their liking. Here's an interesting related Written material is very unreliable, especially when it has been frequently re-written... : paragraph from the "History of Sex" book, I mentioned before, about King Arthur : : "... One of the things which has done much to build up in our minds a false and idealized conception : of the Middle Ages is the representation of King Arthur and his knights as paragons of chaste and : gentlemanly behaviour. This has been done primarily by the Christian authorities, who rewrote the old : British folk tales as as to bring them in line with the approved morality of the Middle Ages, though : the process was carried further by the romantics of hte eighteenth cewntury and by Victorian : sentimentalism. The facts arew very different. Gildas, as as Christian historian, is no doubt somewhat : biased, but he describes the knights as "sanguinary, boastful, murderous, addicted to vice, adulterous : and enemies of God", adding "Although they keep a large number of wives, they are fornicators and : adulterers." The morals of the ladies are no stricter. At King Arthur's court, when a logic mantle is : produced which can only be worn by a chaste woman, none of the ladies present is able to wear it. : When we examine these stories in their original form, we begin to see, not immorality as such, but : a completely different system of sexual morality at odds with the Christian one: a system in which : women were free to take lovers, both before and after marriage, and in which men were free to : seduce all women of lower rank, while they might hope to win the favours of women of higher rank if : they were sufficiently valiant... " : : So were are spoon-fed here with this Christian monogamy idol since a good millenia; it would be : rather hard to untangle how much of our present monogamy is cultural heritage and how much of it : is a real natural instinct. (I'd say much less than we'd dare to think.) Especially now that you got Why should humans be any more inclined to monogamy than any other mammal?? : missionaries even in the wildest jungle bushes of the Third World, teaching the "other cultures" on : our ways and values.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fbd31,2497abe156089177 X-Google-Attributes: gidfbd31,public X-Google-Thread: fdc4a,2497abe156089177 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc4a,public X-Google-Thread: 110235,2497abe156089177 X-Google-Attributes: gid110235,public X-Google-Thread: 1082f5,2497abe156089177 X-Google-Attributes: gid1082f5,public X-Google-Thread: 10a1d2,637212e344066c6e X-Google-Attributes: gid10a1d2,public From: mark@leasion.demon.co.uk (Mark Evans) Subject: Re: The singles scene-does it have to be so confusing? Date: 1996/04/21 Message-ID: <4ld2m3$45@leasion.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 150621007 x-nntp-posting-host: leasion.demon.co.uk references: <4koibm$6iv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <Dpt8t1.E8J@mv.mv.com> <4ks032$cdi@news.tiac.net> <4kvf6u$s4q@nuhou.aloha.net> <Dpz4Lt.zs@world.std.com> <Pine.BSI.3.91.960416182501.4536A-100000@mv.mv.com> <4lcgrs$r4g@nuhou.aloha.net> followup-to: ne.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles,soc.couples organization: Electronic Services newsgroups: ne.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles,soc.couples