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(TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
195, 287 and 295. 
--------------------

Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
getting tickets! It's about time!

        Jerry

In article <3535D0B0.1AE0@nospam.com>,
Jerry Spencer  <spencer@nospam.com> wrote:
}(TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
}will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
}road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
}Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
}Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
}from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
}upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
}Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
}195, 287 and 295. 
}--------------------
}
}Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
}getting tickets! It's about time!

How does raising the speed limit from 55mph to 65mph change the travel
time on roads which, barring congestion and accidents, move at 75mph
or more?  Particularly the Turnpike...

-- 
Matthew T. Russotto                                russotto@pond.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." 

In article <3535D0B0.1AE0@nospam.com>,
Jerry Spencer  <spencer@nospam.com> wrote:
}(TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
}will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
}road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
}Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
}Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
}from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
}upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
}Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
}195, 287 and 295. 
}--------------------
}
}Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
}getting tickets! It's about time!

How does raising the speed limit from 55mph to 65mph change the travel
time on roads which, barring congestion and accidents, move at 75mph
or more?  Particularly the Turnpike...

-- 
Matthew T. Russotto                                russotto@pond.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."

Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
> 
> In article <3535D0B0.1AE0@nospam.com>,
> Jerry Spencer  <spencer@nospam.com> wrote:
> }(TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
> }will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
> }road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
> }Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
> }Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
> }from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
> }upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
> }Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
> }195, 287 and 295.
> }--------------------
> }
> }Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
> }getting tickets! It's about time!
> 
> How does raising the speed limit from 55mph to 65mph change the travel
> time on roads which, barring congestion and accidents, move at 75mph
> or more?  Particularly the Turnpike...
> 
> --
> Matthew T. Russotto                                russotto@pond.com
> "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
> of justice is no virtue."


Gee, when you're talking about roads free from congestion and accidents,
that means what, about six miles in the entire state?  Sorry.  I had to
say that.

JJJ


-- "You can call me Ray..."

In article <3535D0B0.1AE0@nospam.com> Jerry Spencer <spencer@nospam.com> writes:

> (TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
> will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
> road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
> Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
> Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
> from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
> upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
> Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
> 195, 287 and 295. 
> --------------------
> Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
> getting tickets! It's about time!
> 	Jerry

I find this whole speed limit issue comical. The Governor and various
politicians and some large %age of the citizenry are fearing all kinds
of carnage will result from raising the limit. But as far as I can
tell - as someone who drives 24K miles each year - many trips to NYC,
and up and down the NJT, GSP, Rte. 18, I287, I195, as well as a
commuter driving 100+ miles each day, police haven't enforced 55 in
several years. 

The fact that this 65mph limit is becoming legal now is great. But
the NJ State Police have not enforced anything but a 65mph limit for
at least the last 3 to 4 years on the GSP, south of the Raritan Toll
Plaza and the NJT, from at least exit 9 north, and back.

From what I can tell, the politicians seem to be insisting that the
police are *enforcing the speed limit*, which infers that they have,
up to now, been enforcing something reasonable as to the 55 mph
limit. That is not true from my experience, as it appears to me that
they are enforcing a 9 to 10 mph overage of a 65 limit - and have been
doing so for several years. But it certainly makes for good headlines
for the politicians.



Mark

Mark J. Rinehart wrote:
> 
> In article <3535D0B0.1AE0@nospam.com> Jerry Spencer <spencer@nospam.com> writes:
> 
> > (TRENTON) - The speed limit on 475 miles of New Jersey's highways
> > will be raised to 65 miles per hour on May 19. The longest stretch of
> > road with an increased speed limit is the 96 miles along the New Jersey
> > Turnpike between Interchange 1 in Salem County and Interchange 13 in
> > Union County. The shortest is a five-mile run on the Turnpike extension
> > from Florence Township to Mansfield Township. Other roadways with the
> > upped speed limit include parts of the Garden State Parkway, the
> > Atlantic City Expressway, Route 18, Route 55, and Interstates 78, 80,
> > 195, 287 and 295.
> > --------------------
> > Well, now we can travel quicker and faster to New York, without fear of
> > getting tickets! It's about time!
> >       Jerry
> 
> I find this whole speed limit issue comical. The Governor and various
> politicians and some large %age of the citizenry are fearing all kinds
> of carnage will result from raising the limit. But as far as I can
> tell - as someone who drives 24K miles each year - many trips to NYC,
> and up and down the NJT, GSP, Rte. 18, I287, I195, as well as a
> commuter driving 100+ miles each day, police haven't enforced 55 in
> several years.
> 
> The fact that this 65mph limit is becoming legal now is great. But
> the NJ State Police have not enforced anything but a 65mph limit for
> at least the last 3 to 4 years on the GSP, south of the Raritan Toll
> Plaza and the NJT, from at least exit 9 north, and back.
> 
> From what I can tell, the politicians seem to be insisting that the
> police are *enforcing the speed limit*, which infers that they have,
> up to now, been enforcing something reasonable as to the 55 mph
> limit. That is not true from my experience, as it appears to me that
> they are enforcing a 9 to 10 mph overage of a 65 limit - and have been
> doing so for several years. But it certainly makes for good headlines
> for the politicians.
> 
> Mark


What a newsflash! -- politicians engage in politics?  I'm shocked. 
What's next?  Lawyers like money?  Pro jocks often haven't finished
college?  

R. Ruckenwall

"The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive"

Actually, despite the sarcasm, you're right.  The people who say it will
make any difference one way or the other are wasting their time.

Here's a newsflash -- somebody at Rutgers is a Springsteen fan.

> 
> What a newsflash! -- politicians engage in politics?  I'm shocked.
> What's next?  Lawyers like money?  Pro jocks often haven't finished
> college?
> 
> R. Ruckenwall
> 
> "The highway's jammed with broken heroes on a last chance power drive"
> 
> Actually, despite the sarcasm, you're right.  The people who say it will  make any difference one way or the other are wasting their time.

> From what I can tell, the politicians seem to be insisting that the
> police are *enforcing the speed limit*, which infers that they have,
> up to now, been enforcing something reasonable as to the 55 mph
> limit. That is not true from my experience, as it appears to me that
> they are enforcing a 9 to 10 mph overage of a 65 limit - and have been
> doing so for several years. But it certainly makes for good headlines
> for the politicians.
> 
> Mark


This isn't anything new anywhere else, for that matter, no matter where
you drive, in my experience from Maine to Florida to California.

Ok, I also find this issue comical....but what I find funny is your position on it.
If you ask drivers(and I have) they will say they drive an average of 10-15 MPH over
the speed limit no matter what the limit is.  If you need this to be translated, it
means that when the speed limit is 55 MPH, they will drive 65-70MPH.  If the limit
was changed to 65 MPH, then most people would drive 75-80MPH.  I know that in some
states they have upped the speed limit to 75MPH(previously 65MPH), and have incurred
*many* more injuries...

Frank

Mark J. Rinehart wrote:

> I find this whole speed limit issue comical. The Governor and various
> politicians and some large %age of the citizenry are fearing all kinds
> of carnage will result from raising the limit. But as far as I can
> tell - as someone who drives 24K miles each year - many trips to NYC,
> and up and down the NJT, GSP, Rte. 18, I287, I195, as well as a
> commuter driving 100+ miles each day, police haven't enforced 55 in
> several years.
>
> The fact that this 65mph limit is becoming legal now is great. But
> the NJ State Police have not enforced anything but a 65mph limit for
> at least the last 3 to 4 years on the GSP, south of the Raritan Toll
> Plaza and the NJT, from at least exit 9 north, and back.
>
> From what I can tell, the politicians seem to be insisting that the
> police are *enforcing the speed limit*, which infers that they have,
> up to now, been enforcing something reasonable as to the 55 mph
> limit. That is not true from my experience, as it appears to me that
> they are enforcing a 9 to 10 mph overage of a 65 limit - and have been
> doing so for several years. But it certainly makes for good headlines
> for the politicians.
>
> Mark



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In article <35438575.65E8E3E4@forfree.at> klatt <klatt@forfree.at> writes:

> Ok, I also find this issue comical....but what I find funny is your
> position on it. If you ask drivers(and I have) they will say they
> drive an average of 10-15 MPH over the speed limit no matter what
> the limit is.  If you need this to be translated, it means that when
> the speed limit is 55 MPH, they will drive 65-70MPH.  If the limit 
> was changed to 65 MPH, then most people would drive 75-80MPH.  I
> know that in some states they have upped the speed limit to
> 75MPH(previously 65MPH), and have incurred *many* more injuries...
> Frank

Studies have been done in several states that indicate that accidents
and resulting injuries/deaths have gone down with the raising of a 55
limit to 65. If the police actually enforce a reasonable limit, the
roads will be safer. In nearly every county in NJ, where police
have supposedly cracked down on aggressive driving, the numbers
apparently showed a drop in accidents, injuries and fatalities. But
the limit they seem to be enforcing is equivalent to a 65 mph limit,
with leeway to 74.

I set my cruise to 71/72 on the GSP, Rte. 18, I-287 and the NJT, and
has been doing so for several years. I can only speak for myself. I
drive where I feel comfortable for the prevailing conditions. It has
nothing at all to do with the legal speed limit. I've been driving
past radar traps for years, without getting pulled. I have to assume
the cops are enforcing a limit higher than 75. That, to me, is
reasonable.

Frankly, drivers who are unwilling to keep their low end speed on
highways at between 60 and 65, and stay in the right lane while doing
so, have no business or right being on the highways.

Mark