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Curt said on 8/18/2006 11:14 AM:
> "az-willie" <sclause@npole.com> wrote in message
> news:gxkFg.209934$k%3.51087@dukeread12...
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>> Curt said on 8/18/2006 1:59 AM:
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>>>> Semantics! You know EXACTLY what I am talking about. Don't dance be
>>>> honest. Wrong is wrong. If your going to bust the dealers then bust the
>>>> users too.
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>>> I do know exactly what you're talking about. You called illegal
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> immigrants
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>>> criminals. They're not. It's not a crime to be an illegal immigrant.
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> Thus,
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>>> you can't arrest and jail them. You can only deport them. Thus, focusing
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>>> employers is not ignoring some criminals while focusing on others. The
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> only
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>>> criminals here are the ones who hire illegal workers. Send some to jail.
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>>> Curt
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>> Gee, you are so good at being wrong you must have a Master Degree in
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> Error.
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>> Illegally entering the country IS a crime. It is a misdemeanor the first
>> offense. Second offense you can get 6 months and a $1000 fine.
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>> Most / all invaders also commit other crimes. Working illegally IS a
>> crime. Even APPLYING for a job is a crime. Using false / forged ID to
>> get a job IS a crime. Many of them buy phony Social Security cards that
>> use REAL Social Security numbers which is Identity Theft and IS a crime.
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>> The invaders are NOT innocent.
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> Entering the country is a crime. Being in the country is not. Sorry. That's
> just how it is. I'm against illegal immigration too, dude, I'm not arguing
> that with you. Just sayin', there's no point in talking about arresting and
> jailing millions of people because millions of them just plain aren't
> committing a crime. Plus it would be expensive. A lot more expensive than
> jailing the employers. And if the employers were in jail, the illegals would
> go home. (They wouldn't have jobs, see.)
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> And pssst.. calling them "invaders" doesn't help your cause or mine. It
> makes us sound like racists.
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> Curt
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They HAD to commit the crime of illegal entry in order to be here, 
unless they came in on a visa and stayed. Which is also illegal. So any 
way you slice it, they are committing a crime just being here.

If you think you are playing a fun game of semantics -- let's play. 
Their being ( existence ) is not a crime but their PRESENCE is.

Are you actually trying to be so wrong or does it run in your family?

Calling them invaders is exactly what they are. They are, in fact, an 
economic army actually sent here by the government of Mexico and other 
countries to get jobs which they take away from legal workers. They are 
supposed to send most of the money home.

There is little difference between crossing our border without papers 
and taking a job from an American and sending the money home and coming 
across the border with a rifle on your shoulder and looting a town and 
hauling the goodies back across the border.

Both come without permission, both commit crimes, both cause injury to 
American citizens ( financial and even physical on occasions ).

I have nothing against anyone from any country or race who comes here 
legally -- and stay legally.

You illegal lovers try to paint people with a racist label thinking we 
will shut up and go away and let your deal illegal ones alone.

FUCK YOU


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