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What is wrong with Magma's site, I have been all through it, its secure and
fairly fireproof, why move to TO, thats a shitbox city, and all the
datacenters, should be moved out of TO to begin with,
what did you base your theory on! I would like to see a copy of your
advisement, as if,
D
"Ralph" <nobody@uu.net> wrote in message
news:8YFw9.10099$h_4.1553814@news20.bellglobal.com...
> I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national
infrastructure
> such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility than
> Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa.
>
> CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto,
> which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada.
>
> -Ralph
>
>
>

    Its just more 'TO is the centre of the world' stuff.


"Auction-Ottawa" <admin@nospamauction-ottawa.com> wrote in message
news:eQIw9.13690$qD2.1421321@news20.bellglobal.com...
> What is wrong with Magma's site, I have been all through it, its secure
and
> fairly fireproof, why move to TO, thats a shitbox city, and all the
> datacenters, should be moved out of TO to begin with,
> what did you base your theory on! I would like to see a copy of your
> advisement, as if,
> D
> "Ralph" <nobody@uu.net> wrote in message
> news:8YFw9.10099$h_4.1553814@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national
> infrastructure
> > such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility
than
> > Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa.
> >
> > CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto,
> > which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada.
> >
> > -Ralph
> >
> >
> >
>
>

This is the first time I've heard you open your mouth and it looks like you
know even less than I do.  Either that or you work for Magma and don't want
to see things objectively.

Magma doesn't peer at TorIX, which CIRA will likely do after it gets its own
AS and PI space.

If something happens to the major infrastructure at 151 Front, it's going to
get resolved a lot quicker than in the outskirts of Ottawa.

As for the packet loss on my Ottawa-Toronto link, how's this?
500 packets transmitted, 500 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 24.5/37.1/214.3 ms

Not that it matters anyway - I'll be the first to admit that IStop is not
competing in the high-end colocation market.  Magma might like to think they
can compete but they're nothing compared to Equinix or Telehouse.

-Ralph

Jordan Davies wrote in message <3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com>...
>Everytime Ralph opens his mouth he shows how little he knows.
>
>1. Round-trip packet times for traffic from Ottawa to Toronto are app.
10ms.
>It would
>make no difference whether CIRA's server(s) were located in either city.
Of
>course,
>Istop.com's customers would see a difference as Ralph is too cheap to buy
>guaranteed
>bandwidth between Ottawa and Toronto, resulting in packet loss for his
>customers.
>
>2. Moving CIRA's server(s) from Ottawa to Toronto would make no difference
if
>those
>servers truly are a single point of failure.  "Gee - if this server
crashes,
>the
>Internet in Canada is screwed.  Let's move it from one city to another -
that
>will
>fix things!!"  Anybody with half a brain would realize that the proper
solution
>is more
>servers, spread across the entire country with no single point of failure.
>This is
>how they do things in the US and it seems to work just fine.
>
>3. Magma's website says they're building a new data center in Toronto - at
151
>Front
>Street.  Perhaps CIRA will be taking advantage of this to improve their
>redundancy.
>
>4. The people that I have talked to (including a couple of folks at CIRA)
have
>had
>nothing but good things to say about Magma, and from what I've heard, their
>Ottawa
>Data Center is top notch, rivaling any other facility in Canada.
>
>5. Isn't it weird that to get to Ralph's "center of the Internet in Canada"
via
>IStop,
>you have to get there by way of New York?
>
>Jordan
>
>
>Ralph wrote:
>
>> I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national
infrastructure
>> such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility
than
>> Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa.
>>
>> CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto,
>> which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada.
>>
>> -Ralph
>

of course using round robin for root servers is the only way to go, and they
already do, which includes cyclic redundancy, packet loss is fact of life
for any network, lallalalallalalalalblah blah , this is a dead topic,
D
ps, still waiting for copy of advisement to be posted, pls make sure it will
stand up to scrutiny and verification, because I plan to check it. vent vent
vent lol

"Jordan Davies" <jordan@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3DC548B3.C7227FCA@nowhere.com...
> Everytime Ralph opens his mouth he shows how little he knows.
>
> 1. Round-trip packet times for traffic from Ottawa to Toronto are app.
10ms.
> It would
> make no difference whether CIRA's server(s) were located in either city.
Of
> course,
> Istop.com's customers would see a difference as Ralph is too cheap to buy
> guaranteed
> bandwidth between Ottawa and Toronto, resulting in packet loss for his
> customers.
>
> 2. Moving CIRA's server(s) from Ottawa to Toronto would make no difference
if
> those
> servers truly are a single point of failure.  "Gee - if this server
crashes,
> the
> Internet in Canada is screwed.  Let's move it from one city to another -
that
> will
> fix things!!"  Anybody with half a brain would realize that the proper
solution
> is more
> servers, spread across the entire country with no single point of failure.
> This is
> how they do things in the US and it seems to work just fine.
>
> 3. Magma's website says they're building a new data center in Toronto - at
151
> Front
> Street.  Perhaps CIRA will be taking advantage of this to improve their
> redundancy.
>
> 4. The people that I have talked to (including a couple of folks at CIRA)
have
> had
> nothing but good things to say about Magma, and from what I've heard,
their
> Ottawa
> Data Center is top notch, rivaling any other facility in Canada.
>
> 5. Isn't it weird that to get to Ralph's "center of the Internet in
Canada" via
> IStop,
> you have to get there by way of New York?
>
> Jordan
>
>
> Ralph wrote:
>
> > I as well as others have advised CIRA that critical national
infrastructure
> > such as the master CA root server should be kept at a better facility
than
> > Magma's datacenter in an industrial park on the outskirts of Ottawa.
> >
> > CIRA is now planning to move its servers to 151 Front St. W. in Toronto,
> > which is essentially the center of the internet in Canada.
> >
> > -Ralph
>