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Article #142Re: NOW challenge to PK
From: Daniel B. Holzman
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 00:00
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In article <61ha0a$a3$1@Mars.mcs.net>, Karl Denninger <karl@MCS.COM> wrote: >>Actually, no. He submitted to the will of YHVH. The Church was not >>consulted. > >Actually, he submitted to God the Father - Mark 14:36 "And he said "Abba, >Father, all things are possible for you. Take this cup away from me; >nevertheless, not what I will, but what you will". My understanding of Christian theology is that YHVH is God the Father, so I'm not sure what your disagreement is. >As God is, under the Christian faith, believed to be the head of the church >and the reason it exists, Christ submitted to it. My reading of that Ephesians sentence we're discussing is that /Christ/ is the Head of the Church. I'll admit that alot of this comes down to a "tastes-great less-filling" type of distinction any time I try to parse it, but the explanation I've been given is "YHVH is God, Jesus is Lord." I'm unclear on the distinction, but it's been presented to me as a crucial one, so I'm gonna take their word for it. -- Daniel B. Holzman -- Love does not subtract, it multiplies. -- All acts of love and pleasure are Her rituals. -- An it Harm none, do what you Will. -- They took my name and stole my heritage, but they didn't get my goat. -- The word is all of us. -- Remember the Twelth Commandment and keep it Wholly.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 115ded,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid115ded,public X-Google-Thread: fe6e4,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe6e4,public X-Google-Thread: 1082f5,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid1082f5,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: f5de8,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5de8,public X-Google-Thread: 15f5e3,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gid15f5e3,public X-Google-Thread: fdc4a,c2790f16bb9117a8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdc4a,public From: holzman@xochi.tezcat.com (Daniel B. Holzman) Subject: Re: NOW challenge to PK Date: 1997/10/08 Message-ID: <61hb6j$oc2@xochi.tezcat.com> X-Deja-AN: 278854783 Distribution: usa References: <61dror$2f2$6@gail.ripco.com> <61goa7$i6h$1@Mars.mcs.net> <61h8vh$na1@xochi.tezcat.com> <61ha0a$a3$1@Mars.mcs.net> Organization: Winterdream Newsgroups: rci.general,chi.media,chi.general,alt.feminism,soc.women,soc.men,alt.politics.liberalism