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Started by Ed Krejcik
Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:39
Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Ed Krejcik
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:39
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:39
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Another from my list of questions: SCENARIO: I'm still finishing up my Eagle II. The instructions say to put 90 degree bends for my pushrod connections to the servos. My flying buddy here at work says to solder quick links to the end - much more secure. My hobby shop sold me Dubro EZ connectors. I use the EZ connectors on my Gentle Lady, and they are great. They make it very easy for trimming. My friend says that they will be too unreliable in a power plane due to the vibration. QUESTION: Can I use the EZ connectors, or will they fail due to vibration? They are my first choice. Thanks, -- *** Ed Krejcik +--------------------------------------+ *** *** Precision Visuals, Inc. | "Don`t be outraged, be outrageous!!" | *** *** Boulder, CO +--------------------------------------+ *** *** 303/530-9000 Email to: eeak@pvi.com Disclaimer: mine... ***
Re: Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Pete Foss PO/46
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:51
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:51
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In article F7M@csn.org, eeak@teal.csn.org (Ed Krejcik) writes: >Another from my list of questions: >I use the EZ connectors on my Gentle Lady, and they are great. >They make it very easy for trimming. My friend says that they >will be too unreliable in a power plane due to the vibration. > > >QUESTION: >Can I use the EZ connectors, or will they fail due to vibration? >They are my first choice. I prefer to use adjustable clevises on both ends of a pushrod. I don't trust any connector with a set screw on anything but throttle. Also, try not to have any bends in a pushrod if at all possible. In many airplanes the kit shows the two pushrods parallel to each other with a dog leg bend at the aft end. Most of the time if you simply cross the rudder and elevator pushrods, you can keep them absolutely straight. Much stiffer. It's probably not terribly important on a trainer but on a high speed airplane a sloppy elevator can really get you in trouble.
Re: Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Larry E. Snyder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:47
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:47
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In article <C189q0.F7M@csn.org>, eeak@teal.csn.org (Ed Krejcik) writes: > > > QUESTION: > Can I use the EZ connectors, or will they fail due to vibration? > They are my first choice. > I would NOT recommend using EZ connectors on anything but throttle. If that little setscrew gets even a little loose on the elevator, you'r dead meat. Just not worth it. I don't see where soldering quick links to the pushrod would be any better than Z-bends. Solder joints can fail, but Z-bends are rock solid. I vote for Z-bends. Larry
Re: Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Lyman Lew
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:08
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:08
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In article <C189q0.F7M@csn.org> eeak@teal.csn.org (Ed Krejcik) writes: >Another from my list of questions: > ><Stuff deleted.> >I use the EZ connectors on my Gentle Lady, and they are great. >They make it very easy for trimming. My friend says that they >will be too unreliable in a power plane due to the vibration. > > >QUESTION: >Can I use the EZ connectors, or will they fail due to vibration? >They are my first choice. > I use EZ connectors on everything from power plane to gliders. Yes, vibration may cause a failure but I usually check all the mechanical connections before the wing is bolted on. This gives me a chance to inspect the plane before each flying session. For extra insurance, I use a thread locking compound on all the screws so they don't come loose. If the screw heads become smashed from frequent tightening, I replaced them with a socket screw. There are better ways I guess, but this hasn't failed me yet. Lyman Lew, lew@caesi.scg.hac.com
Re: Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Phil Blais
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:48
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:48
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In article <96800@rphroy.ph.gmr.com> pfoss@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>
>In article F7M@csn.org, eeak@teal.csn.org (Ed Krejcik) writes:
>>Another from my list of questions:
>
>>I use the EZ connectors on my Gentle Lady, and they are great.
>>They make it very easy for trimming. My friend says that they
>>will be too unreliable in a power plane due to the vibration.
>>
>>
>>QUESTION:
>>Can I use the EZ connectors, or will they fail due to vibration?
>>They are my first choice.
>
>I prefer to use adjustable clevises on both ends of a pushrod.
^^^^^^^^^
I assume you use a lock nut on atleast one end to prevent the pushrod
from lengthening or shortening due to vibration? Not a flame, just wanna
be sure the neophytes don't get the wrong impression.
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Re: Connecting pushrods to servos
Author: Steven W Bixby
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:59
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:59
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< EZ-connectors comments > >>I prefer to use adjustable clevises on both ends of a pushrod. > ^^^^^^^^^ >I assume you use a lock nut on atleast one end to prevent the pushrod >from lengthening or shortening due to vibration? Not a flame, just wanna >be sure the neophytes don't get the wrong impression. Errr.. Wait a minute, think about this a second. If one end of the rod rotates in the clevis, then the other one does too. The rod may slide one way or the other by rotating, but the length remains the same (assuming 2-56 threads...) Now, this is not to say I 'condone' using un-lock-nutted clevises on both ends of a rod...! The pushrod could rotate enough to completely come out of one clevis. And, it could advance far enough into one side to cause binding, and eventually battery run-down, and so forth. My personal choice, which I use on virtually EVERY pushrod type installation is Z bends on the servo end, and STEEL clevises, locknutted to prevent metal-to-metal noise, as well as a piece of fuel tubing over the closed clevis to prevent it from popping off under load. For smaller planes and gliders, I will use nylon clevises, if the horn is also nylon; a miniscule amount of weight, and no need for a locknut. The only place I will use EZ-connectors is for nose-wheel steering (usually not there, either) and throttle. These are more adjustment prone items, and often harder to get at the end opposite the servo. Several years ago I did use EZ's on my flight surfaces, but my rudder on a tail-dragger popped the EZ off the servo a couple of times on landing, and I decided it was CHEAPER, STRONGER, and MORE RELIABLE to use Z-bends. The available z-bender pliers are really good for this - one of my most favorite tools, in fact. :) -swb- (Steve Bixby, sbixby@cup.portal.com)
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