Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: Bill Z.
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:03

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LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:

> On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:31:50 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
> Z.) wrote:
>
>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Fallacy; the refuge of the defeated.
>>
>>Wrong - not a fallacy at all.  We were discussing facts, not voter
>>decisions, nor whether some marital arrangement is acceptable to
>>people.
>>
>>BTW, I'd say exactly the same thing regardless of whether I was in
>>favor of Proposition Eight or opposed to it: domestic partnerships
>>simply are not legally equivalent to marriage for the reasons the
>>California Supreme Court stated, and that is what was being
>>discussed.
>
> The people contend that two people of the same sex cannot marry. A
> marriage can only be the joining of one man and one woman. Equivalency
> is not a factor.

The "equivalency," in case you didn't notice, was the topic of
discussion.  If you are not interested in that topic, then post
a follow up to something else.

>>I might also add that there are any number of reasons to vote no on
>>Proposition Eight regardless of one's opinion about same-sex
>>marriages.  One reason is that Proposition Eight would insert text
>>into Article I, Section 7 (the new text being in Article I, section
>>7.5) that is simply out of place.
>
> No, the people think it's entirely appropriate.

No, there is no evidence of that regardless of how the vote turns out.
A large number of voters don't think about such issues at all and are
merely influenced by the TV ads they see.

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