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Article #251Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: Bill Z.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:36
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:36
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Hnic Hastogo <n.has.to.go@kinky-kooks.Kom> writes: > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), kujebak > <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote: >>There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut >>through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this >>subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this and >>other topics - even today, it is not easy to look up actual >>HIV/AIDS statistics, which are obscured in public health >>papers and scientific publications under tons of other irrele- >>vant data, and almost never presented in the mainstream >>media, but they are there for anyone to see, who actually >>cares to look - and your quick retreat behind ideological >>labels clearly indicates where *you* are coming from ;-) > > June 27, 2008 / 57(25);681-686 > > Trends in HIV/AIDS Diagnoses Among Men Who Have Sex with Men --- 33 > States, 2001--2006 > <snip> > increased 8.6% (estimated annual percentage change [EAPC] = 1.5). > During 2001--2006, an estimated 214,379 persons had HIV/AIDS diagnosed > in the 33 states. Of these diagnoses, 46% were in MSM, and 4% were in > MSM who engaged in illicit injection-drug use (IDU) (i.e., MSM and > IDU). The data you provided is incomplete (cutting and pasting everything is tedious), but it you take both categories and the IDU category (by itself), you end up with a significant number of cases transmitted via heterosexual sex - which is nearly all of what is left due to things like blood transfusions now being very safe. And that's the point - you don't want to give people the idea that the risk is zero when it isn't. That kujebak guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
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X-Google-Thread: 10a89e,af9442ae69b6f64f X-Google-Thread: f824f,af9442ae69b6f64f X-Google-Thread: 102fd5,af9442ae69b6f64f X-Google-Thread: 107d03,af9442ae69b6f64f X-Google-Thread: 10d50a,af9442ae69b6f64f X-Google-Attributes: gid10a89e,gidf824f,gid102fd5,gid107d03,gid10d50a,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!flph200.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flph199.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!79589bed!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sac.general,ba.general,ba.politics,la.general,scruz.general Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight References: <c0c5fef993b772586ad491e239a5debe@dizum.com> <es4ig4pbk342u7o8qv62265rnkdh7fm1p0@4ax.com> <vTuOk.3405$pr6.1325@flpi149.ffdc.sbc.com> <6369ac2f-7573-4867-beeb-813b1d2e0c9f@q26g2000prq.googlegroups.com> <87skp51ac1.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> <481100f9-7372-4251-895b-89624c03c29e@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <87tz9lngbp.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> <03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <3v9ej41q4ta6408041cttb7se294dvkt55@4ax.com> From: nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) Message-ID: <87wseg4t7j.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:f930P3ZDQsLTkGgyNYGujFKU07s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.233.20.69 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1228354175 ST000 209.233.20.69 (Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:29:35 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:29:35 EST Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/ X-UserInfo1: [[PAPDCA[S@GSV\[CJJXOFTBTR\B@GXLN@GZ_GYO^BSZUSAANVUEAE[YETZPIWWI[FCIZA^NBFXZ_D[BFNTCNVPDTNTKHWXKB@X^B_OCJLPZ@ET_O[G\XSG@E\G[ZKVLBL^CJINM@I_KVIOR\T_M_AW_M[_BWU_HFA_]@A_A^SGFAUDE_DFTMQPFWVW[QPJN Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:36:32 -0800