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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: Bill Z.
Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:36
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Hnic Hastogo <n.has.to.go@kinky-kooks.Kom> writes:

> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:45:58 -0800 (PST), kujebak
> <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote:

>>There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this and
>>other topics - even today, it is not easy to look up actual
>>HIV/AIDS statistics, which are obscured in public health
>>papers and scientific publications under tons of other irrele-
>>vant data, and almost never presented in the mainstream
>>media, but they are there for anyone to see, who actually
>>cares to look - and your quick retreat behind ideological
>>labels clearly indicates where *you* are coming from ;-)
>
> June 27, 2008 / 57(25);681-686
>
> Trends in HIV/AIDS Diagnoses Among Men Who Have Sex with Men --- 33
> States, 2001--2006
>
<snip>
> increased 8.6% (estimated annual percentage change [EAPC] = 1.5).
> During 2001--2006, an estimated 214,379 persons had HIV/AIDS diagnosed
> in the 33 states. Of these diagnoses, 46% were in MSM, and 4% were in
> MSM who engaged in illicit injection-drug use (IDU) (i.e., MSM and
> IDU).

The data you provided is incomplete (cutting and pasting everything is
tedious), but it you take both categories and the IDU category (by
itself), you end up with a significant number of cases transmitted via
heterosexual sex - which is nearly all of what is left due to things
like blood transfusions now being very safe.

And that's the point - you don't want to give people the idea that
the risk is zero when it isn't.

That kujebak guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
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