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TLittle wrote:
> She was arrested on suspicion of gross vehicular manslaughter while
> intoxicated, driving under the influence of alcohol with injury, felony
> hit-and-run and violation of parole. She was jailed on a no-bail hold.

...violation of parole...says she'd most likely already spent time in jail.

Austin
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"TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
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>
> A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
>
> Christina Jewett
> Sacramento Bee
> June 21, 2005
>
>
> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
>
> "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very bizarre
> story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
>
> The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
> Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
> vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
> rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
> Avenue, Hartley said.
>

She was trying to save her husband who was dying,

The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.

She should have called 911 for her husband.

The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail light,
and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what a
green light says.  A dead dumbass now.

TLittle wrote:
>
> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.

Wow. A fat fuck has a coronary in the parking lot at Wal-Mart, and
manages to kill a bicyclist in the process. And people say the
sedentary American life is a victimless crime. ;-)

CC

Jake Donwawgo wrote:

> "TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
> news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
> >
> > A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
> >
> > Christina Jewett
> > Sacramento Bee
> > June 21, 2005
> >
> >
> > SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
> > parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> > night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
> >
> > "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very bizarre
> > story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
> >
> > The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
> > Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
> > vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
> > rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
> > Avenue, Hartley said.
> >
>
> She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>
> The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
> light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>
> She should have called 911 for her husband.
>
> The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail light,
> and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what a
> green light says.  A dead dumbass now.

Hmmm.... article states: "Witnesses said she failed to stop for the red light
at Watt Avenue at 10:34 p.m. and struck an adult bicyclist, Hartley said."

To which Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo responded: "should not have crossed in
front of the moving car, in spite of what a
green light says."

Well, from Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo's "logic"  one can conclude that the
safest course of action for anyone and ANYTHING with the green light at an
intersection is to simply sit there and DO NOTHING EVER because one can never
be sure if there's gonna be a panic stricken individual ready to run the
crossing red light "legitimately" because they have just cause based on an
emergency.

Well guess from now on I'll just sit at a green light in my car AND DO NOTHING
cause goddamned if there might not be someone ready to run the crossing
redlight cause he or she has a "legitimate" emergency they have to attend
to.......

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:20:00 -0500, "Jake Donwawgo"
<invalid@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
>news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
>>
>> A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
>>
>> Christina Jewett
>> Sacramento Bee
>> June 21, 2005
>>
>>
>> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
>> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
>> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
>>
>> "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very bizarre
>> story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
>>
>> The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
>> Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
>> vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
>> rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
>> Avenue, Hartley said.
>>
>
>She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>
>The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
>light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>
>She should have called 911 for her husband.
>
>The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail light,
>and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what a
>green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
>
>

Well Jake, you are without a doubt the stupidest, most heartless,
worthless piece of human garbage, that I encountered, in a very long
time.
And most likely a scum-sucking troll.

Wow! Not that is a stretch!!  The bicyclist could have been a 
tractor/trailer, police car or mini van filled with people.

The net result is it still sucks and the driver was waaaay wrong. It was not 
a targeted assassination--or the least (current)  evidence says the cyclist 
was in the wrong spot at the wrong time. So too are many people with suicide 
bombers.

Get the data, otherwise you are just another asshole with an opinion.

Did you ever see" Slaughter House Five"?



<corvuscorvax@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1119389363.578320.147450@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> TLittle wrote:
>>
>> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
>> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
>> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
>
> Wow. A fat fuck has a coronary in the parking lot at Wal-Mart, and
> manages to kill a bicyclist in the process. And people say the
> sedentary American life is a victimless crime. ;-)
>
> CC
> 

Jeff Starr <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote:

>Well Jake, you are without a doubt the stupidest, most heartless,
>worthless piece of human garbage, that I encountered, in a very long
>time.
>And most likely a scum-sucking troll.

One you just fed. Ignore the dweeb and it'll go away.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

Jake-ass Dontwannago wrote:

> She was trying to save her husband who was dying

She was a drunken jailbird in a hurry:

>> She didn't have a vehicle, so she took a van belonging to
>> a neighboring day care center, rammed through a locked gate
>> at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino Avenue

Stole a van.

>> Witnesses said she failed to stop for the red light at Watt
>> Avenue at 10:34 p.m. and struck an adult bicyclist

Ran a red light.

>> She was arrested on suspicion of gross vehicular manslaughter
>> while intoxicated, driving under the influence of alcohol
>> with injury, felony hit-and-run and violation of parole.

Driving drunk while on parole.

> A dead dumbass now.

You're all heart, Jake-ass.

-- 
"Bicycling is a healthy and manly pursuit with much
  to recommend it, and, unlike other foolish crazes,
  it has not died out." -- The Daily Telegraph (1877)

Jake Donwawgo wrote
<snip>
> She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>
> The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
> light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>
> She should have called 911 for her husband.
>
> The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail 
> light,
> and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what a
> green light says.  A dead dumbass now.

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/jerk.htm

Austin
-- 
I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please!
There are no X characters in my address 

"TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
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>
> Jake Donwawgo wrote:
>
> > "TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
> > news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
> > >
> > > A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
> > >
> > > Christina Jewett
> > > Sacramento Bee
> > > June 21, 2005
> > >
> > >
> > > SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a
Wal-Mart
> > > parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> > > night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
> > >
> > > "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very
bizarre
> > > story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
> > >
> > > The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
> > > Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
> > > vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
> > > rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
> > > Avenue, Hartley said.
> > >
> >
> > She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
> >
> > The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings
or
> > light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
> >
> > She should have called 911 for her husband.
> >
> > The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail
light,
> > and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what
a
> > green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
>
> Hmmm.... article states: "Witnesses said she failed to stop for the red
light
> at Watt Avenue at 10:34 p.m. and struck an adult bicyclist, Hartley said."

You skipped the part where she said she did not see him at all

>
> To which Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo responded: "should not have
crossed in
> front of the moving car, in spite of what a
> green light says."

Expecially when the bicyclist sees a car coming, why didn't he stop? He was
drunk too?

>
> Well, from Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo's "logic"  one can conclude
that the
> safest course of action for anyone and ANYTHING with the green light at an
> intersection is to simply sit there and DO NOTHING EVER

That is your thinking, oh shallow turd-boy , not mine.


>because one can never
> be sure if there's gonna be a panic stricken individual ready to run the
> crossing red light "legitimately" because they have just cause based on an
> emergency.
>
> Well guess from now on I'll just sit at a green light in my car AND DO
NOTHING
> cause goddamned if there might not be someone ready to run the crossing
> redlight cause he or she has a "legitimate" emergency they have to attend
> to.......


It will keep you safe, until you get run over from behind.

"Jeff Starr" <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote in message
news:tv9hb1th99rooc4m4rqh4o11tr688jh3e9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:20:00 -0500, "Jake Donwawgo"
> <invalid@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
> >news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
> >>
> >> A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
> >>
> >> Christina Jewett
> >> Sacramento Bee
> >> June 21, 2005
> >>
> >>
> >> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a
Wal-Mart
> >> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> >> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
> >>
> >> "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very bizarre
> >> story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
> >>
> >> The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
> >> Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
> >> vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
> >> rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
> >> Avenue, Hartley said.
> >>
> >
> >She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
> >
> >The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
> >light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
> >
> >She should have called 911 for her husband.
> >
> >The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail
light,
> >and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what
a
> >green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
> >
> >
>
> Well Jake, you are without

Too bad you cannot consider the real facts, it was dark, he had no lights,
no reflective tape, a black bike and he was a nigger with no white teeth.
There was NO WAY ANYBODY could see this moving ball of blackness.

"Jake Donwawgo" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
> news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
>>
>> A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
>>
>> Christina Jewett
>> Sacramento Bee
>> June 21, 2005
>>
>>
>> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
>> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
>> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
>>
>> "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very bizarre
>> story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
>>
>> The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole Meshell
>> Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
>> vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care center,
>> rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El Camino
>> Avenue, Hartley said.
>>
>
> She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>
> The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
> light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>
> She should have called 911 for her husband.
>
> The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail 
> light,
> and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what a
> green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
>
He called 911. She was speeding - she was drunk - she stole a vehicle.
It could have been a pedestrian instead of a person on a bicycle.
Too bad it wasn't a bigoted, ignorant idiot in the road.
>
> 

"Jake Donwawgo" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message 
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>
> "TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
> news:42B899F2.F88B3E77@mail.net...
>>
>> Jake Donwawgo wrote:
>>
>> > "TLittle" <mail@mail.net> wrote in message
>> > news:42B87EEE.1C9F1E1F@mail.net...
>> > >
>> > > A WOMAN IN A HURRY ALLEGEDLY KILLED BICYCLIST
>> > >
>> > > Christina Jewett
>> > > Sacramento Bee
>> > > June 21, 2005
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a
> Wal-Mart
>> > > parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
>> > > night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.
>> > >
>> > > "She was on a mission, she was not going to be stopped - a very
> bizarre
>> > > story there," California Highway Patrol spokesman Max Hartley said.
>> > >
>> > > The trek began about 10 p.m. Sunday, Hartley said, when Nicole 
>> > > Meshell
>> > > Patterson, 34, received the call from her husband. She didn't have a
>> > > vehicle, so she took a van belonging to a neighboring day care 
>> > > center,
>> > > rammed through a locked gate at Mission Avenue and sped onto El 
>> > > Camino
>> > > Avenue, Hartley said.
>> > >
>> >
>> > She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>> >
>> > The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings
> or
>> > light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>> >
>> > She should have called 911 for her husband.
>> >
>> > The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail
> light,
>> > and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of 
>> > what
> a
>> > green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
>>
>> Hmmm.... article states: "Witnesses said she failed to stop for the red
> light
>> at Watt Avenue at 10:34 p.m. and struck an adult bicyclist, Hartley 
>> said."
>
> You skipped the part where she said she did not see him at all
You skipped the part "failed to stop at red light". Doesn't matter if she 
saw him. She ran the red. It could have been a mother and child in the 
crosswalk. Would you still be protecting the drunk car thief?
>
>>
>> To which Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo responded: "should not have
> crossed in
>> front of the moving car, in spite of what a
>> green light says."
>
> Expecially when the bicyclist sees a car coming, why didn't he stop? He 
> was
> drunk too?
He had the right of way. Her light was red. She was speeding.
>
>>
>> Well, from Jake "Albert Einstein" Donwawgo's "logic"  one can conclude
> that the
>> safest course of action for anyone and ANYTHING with the green light at 
>> an
>> intersection is to simply sit there and DO NOTHING EVER
>
> That is your thinking, oh shallow turd-boy , not mine.
Your "thinking" about anything is questionable.
>
>
>>because one can never
>> be sure if there's gonna be a panic stricken individual ready to run the
>> crossing red light "legitimately" because they have just cause based on 
>> an
>> emergency.
>>
>> Well guess from now on I'll just sit at a green light in my car AND DO
> NOTHING
>> cause goddamned if there might not be someone ready to run the crossing
>> redlight cause he or she has a "legitimate" emergency they have to attend
>> to.......
>
>
> It will keep you safe, until you get run over from behind.
>
> 

"Jake Donwawgo" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message >
> Too bad you cannot consider the real facts, it was dark, he had no lights,
> no reflective tape, a black bike and he was a nigger with no white teeth.
> There was NO WAY ANYBODY could see this moving ball of blackness.

plonk

Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe 
if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been avoided.

I have read of ambulances and police cars hitting bicyclists because the 
dumb ass bicyclist failed to yield to emergency lights, had no lights or 
reflectors at night.  In the two instances I read, the emergency vehicle 
driver never saw the bike at night until it was too late.

I am a long distance cyclist, and so is my brother - who is a Minneapolis 
city cop.  He stops, tags and confiscates - if necessary bicyclists who blow 
stop signs... cut in and out of traffic.. blow crosswalks while little 
people are in them... etc.

I say bravo.  If we can't obey the laws how can we expect auto drivers to 
yield to a bicyclist......

Be an example to kids on how bicyclists behave on the road.  Maybe you might 
save one of those kiddies someday by teaching them how to properly ride a 
bicycle or another bicyclist when those kids start driving motorcars, 
instead on those kids thinking bicyclists on fancy road bikes are assholes.

If you are stupid enough to ride around at night without reflectors and/or 
lights on, you ride at your own peril.  Nature has it's way of eliminating 
idiots.

And who says people who have heart attacks are all "fat fucks"?


"AustinMN" <Austin260@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> Jake Donwawgo wrote
> <snip>
>> She was trying to save her husband who was dying,
>>
>> The bicycle was invisible at night, it did not have any night markings or
>> light on and did not try to avoid the car, so he is mostly to blame.
>>
>> She should have called 911 for her husband.
>>
>> The bicyclist should have had reflectors on, and headlight, and tail 
>> light,
>> and should not have crossed in front of the moving car, in spite of what 
>> a
>> green light says.  A dead dumbass now.
>
> http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/jerk.htm
>
> Austin
> -- 
> I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please!
> There are no X characters in my address 

The Airman wrote:
>
> And who says people who have heart attacks are all "fat fucks"?

No, stupid. People at Walmart are all fat fucks.

CC

Another moron... (You)

PLONK

<corvuscorvax@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1119629735.763767.327360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The Airman wrote:
>>
>> And who says people who have heart attacks are all "fat fucks"?
>
> No, stupid. People at Walmart are all fat fucks.
>
> CC
> 

The Airman wrote:
> Another moron... (You)
>
> PLONK

;-)

There you go. Problem solved. Now please go back to policing your local
Walmart parking lot:

http://tinyurl.com/c95ga

CC

In article <n3Wue.3216$hV5.2352@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
The Airman <airman@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe 
>if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been avoided.

Did you read the original article?  I mean, the whole thing, including
the part where it listed what the driver got charged with?  How, exactly,
is being visible at night going to stop you from being hit by a drunk
moron driving a stolen vehicle when she goes through a red light?

No matter how visible you are, you still won't be seen by somebody who
doesn't look.


dave

-- 
Dave Vandervies                         dj3vande@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
(As a degenerate case, sleeping on the keyboard counts as "play" for
these purposes.)
                                       --Chris Dollin in comp.lang.c

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:57:07 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
wrote:

>Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe 
>if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been avoided.
>
>I have read of ambulances and police cars hitting bicyclists because the 
>dumb ass bicyclist failed to yield to emergency lights, had no lights or 
>reflectors at night.  In the two instances I read, the emergency vehicle 
>driver never saw the bike at night until it was too late.
>
>I am a long distance cyclist, and so is my brother - who is a Minneapolis 
>city cop.  He stops, tags and confiscates - if necessary bicyclists who blow 
>stop signs... cut in and out of traffic.. blow crosswalks while little 
>people are in them... etc.
>
>I say bravo.  If we can't obey the laws how can we expect auto drivers to 
>yield to a bicyclist......
>

I say bullcrap. I go through red lights, stop signs, and crosswalks. I
do it slowly and considerately. I don't give people heart attacks by
flying by with two inches to spare, I slow down, see that it is clear,
and go through. If it isn't clear, I circle or (very rarely) stop.

I am not driving a car, I am riding a bike. That means that lights
aren't timed for me like they are for a car. I can't go 33 MPH. So I
would have to stop every two or three blocks and wait. That would just
about double my commuting time and make it impossible to do. I don't
have that much time.

You are a long distance cyclist, I am not. I go 12 miles each
direction, twice a day. Through heavy traffic in Manhattan and down
bike lanes in Queens. Sorry guy, I guess you and your cop brother
don't bike in the big city. I do. If you stop and wait for lights in
Manhattan, you are the only cyclist doing so.

Actually no I did not.

What I said still stands.

Thanks for informing me.

"Dave Vandervies" <dj3vande@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote in message 
news:d9held$hoe$1@rumours.uwaterloo.ca...
> In article <n3Wue.3216$hV5.2352@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> The Airman <airman@mn.rr.com> wrote:
>>Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe
>>if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been 
>>avoided.
>
> Did you read the original article?  I mean, the whole thing, including
> the part where it listed what the driver got charged with?  How, exactly,
> is being visible at night going to stop you from being hit by a drunk
> moron driving a stolen vehicle when she goes through a red light?
>
> No matter how visible you are, you still won't be seen by somebody who
> doesn't look.
>
>
> dave
>
> -- 
> Dave Vandervies                         dj3vande@csclub.uwaterloo.ca
> (As a degenerate case, sleeping on the keyboard counts as "play" for
> these purposes.)
>                                       --Chris Dollin in comp.lang.c 

Well, to each their own.  True, we are a "little" city here in Minnesota.


"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:57:07 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe
>>if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been 
>>avoided.
>>
>>I have read of ambulances and police cars hitting bicyclists because the
>>dumb ass bicyclist failed to yield to emergency lights, had no lights or
>>reflectors at night.  In the two instances I read, the emergency vehicle
>>driver never saw the bike at night until it was too late.
>>
>>I am a long distance cyclist, and so is my brother - who is a Minneapolis
>>city cop.  He stops, tags and confiscates - if necessary bicyclists who 
>>blow
>>stop signs... cut in and out of traffic.. blow crosswalks while little
>>people are in them... etc.
>>
>>I say bravo.  If we can't obey the laws how can we expect auto drivers to
>>yield to a bicyclist......
>>
>
> I say bullcrap. I go through red lights, stop signs, and crosswalks. I
> do it slowly and considerately. I don't give people heart attacks by
> flying by with two inches to spare, I slow down, see that it is clear,
> and go through. If it isn't clear, I circle or (very rarely) stop.
>
> I am not driving a car, I am riding a bike. That means that lights
> aren't timed for me like they are for a car. I can't go 33 MPH. So I
> would have to stop every two or three blocks and wait. That would just
> about double my commuting time and make it impossible to do. I don't
> have that much time.
>
> You are a long distance cyclist, I am not. I go 12 miles each
> direction, twice a day. Through heavy traffic in Manhattan and down
> bike lanes in Queens. Sorry guy, I guess you and your cop brother
> don't bike in the big city. I do. If you stop and wait for lights in
> Manhattan, you are the only cyclist doing so. 

You sound far more considerate in crossing than I see most riders here.


"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message 
news:s2fob1lmmu6t9clb51i73218587jbrho2p@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:57:07 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe
>>if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been 
>>avoided.
>>
>>I have read of ambulances and police cars hitting bicyclists because the
>>dumb ass bicyclist failed to yield to emergency lights, had no lights or
>>reflectors at night.  In the two instances I read, the emergency vehicle
>>driver never saw the bike at night until it was too late.
>>
>>I am a long distance cyclist, and so is my brother - who is a Minneapolis
>>city cop.  He stops, tags and confiscates - if necessary bicyclists who 
>>blow
>>stop signs... cut in and out of traffic.. blow crosswalks while little
>>people are in them... etc.
>>
>>I say bravo.  If we can't obey the laws how can we expect auto drivers to
>>yield to a bicyclist......
>>
>
> I say bullcrap. I go through red lights, stop signs, and crosswalks. I
> do it slowly and considerately. I don't give people heart attacks by
> flying by with two inches to spare, I slow down, see that it is clear,
> and go through. If it isn't clear, I circle or (very rarely) stop.
>
> I am not driving a car, I am riding a bike. That means that lights
> aren't timed for me like they are for a car. I can't go 33 MPH. So I
> would have to stop every two or three blocks and wait. That would just
> about double my commuting time and make it impossible to do. I don't
> have that much time.
>
> You are a long distance cyclist, I am not. I go 12 miles each
> direction, twice a day. Through heavy traffic in Manhattan and down
> bike lanes in Queens. Sorry guy, I guess you and your cop brother
> don't bike in the big city. I do. If you stop and wait for lights in
> Manhattan, you are the only cyclist doing so. 

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:41:21 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
wrote:

>You sound far more considerate in crossing than I see most riders here.
>
>

Yes, I'm not a bike messenger. Those guys scare me sometimes and I
know that they're really good. Still, the way they bike gives us all a
bad name.

dgk wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:57:07 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >Well - the cyclist learned their lesson - and paid with their life.  Maybe
> >if the driver could see the bicyclist at night, this may have been avoided.
> >
> >I have read of ambulances and police cars hitting bicyclists because the
> >dumb ass bicyclist failed to yield to emergency lights, had no lights or
> >reflectors at night.  In the two instances I read, the emergency vehicle
> >driver never saw the bike at night until it was too late.
> >
> >I am a long distance cyclist, and so is my brother - who is a Minneapolis
> >city cop.  He stops, tags and confiscates - if necessary bicyclists who blow
> >stop signs... cut in and out of traffic.. blow crosswalks while little
> >people are in them... etc.
> >
> >I say bravo.  If we can't obey the laws how can we expect auto drivers to
> >yield to a bicyclist......
> 
> I say bullcrap. I go through red lights, stop signs, and crosswalks. I
> do it slowly and considerately. I don't give people heart attacks by
> flying by with two inches to spare, I slow down, see that it is clear,
> and go through. If it isn't clear, I circle or (very rarely) stop.
> 
> I am not driving a car, I am riding a bike. That means that lights
> aren't timed for me like they are for a car. I can't go 33 MPH. So I
> would have to stop every two or three blocks and wait. That would just
> about double my commuting time and make it impossible to do. I don't
> have that much time.

Moreover, the sensors in the pavement (at least around here) don't trip for
bicycles, so you're trapped until a car comes along going your way unless you
want to get off your bike to push the button for the WALK sign.  This is also
an undue burden.
 
-- 
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Rats cry when they hear about my life."   -- Dilbert

Yes - those guys/girls ride like maniacs sometimes.  I have even seen them 
ride on the sidewalks dodging people.  They are fast, but many times scary 
and rude.


"dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message 
news:cpjob1hf0lh0esnksdvgaiano6killqqpi@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:41:21 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>You sound far more considerate in crossing than I see most riders here.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, I'm not a bike messenger. Those guys scare me sometimes and I
> know that they're really good. Still, the way they bike gives us all a
> bad name. 

WHACK!!!! "Got Another one may dear", the idiot was on a toy, some sort of
tricycle no helmet no lights, dressed up like an asshole
.  "Keep it on the sidewalk next time"  weenie>


"The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
news:yF3ve.3415$hV5.2930@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Yes - those guys/girls ride like maniacs sometimes.  I have even seen them
> ride on the sidewalks dodging people.  They are fast, but many times scary
> and rude.
>
>
> "dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
> news:cpjob1hf0lh0esnksdvgaiano6killqqpi@4ax.com...
> > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:41:21 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>You sound far more considerate in crossing than I see most riders here.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Yes, I'm not a bike messenger. Those guys scare me sometimes and I
> > know that they're really good. Still, the way they bike gives us all a
> > bad name.
>
>

"Kac Demetrie" <invalid@nospam.com> wrote in message 
news:42bce4a5$0$53137$892e7fe2@authen.white.readfreenews.net...
> WHACK!!!! "Got Another one may dear", the idiot was on a toy, some sort of
> tricycle no helmet no lights, dressed up like an asshole
> .  "Keep it on the sidewalk next time"  weenie>
>
Slow down - pay attention and don't run red lights like a drunken car thief.
Or is that too much to handle?
>
> "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:yF3ve.3415$hV5.2930@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Yes - those guys/girls ride like maniacs sometimes.  I have even seen 
>> them
>> ride on the sidewalks dodging people.  They are fast, but many times 
>> scary
>> and rude.
>>
>>
>> "dgk" <sonicechoes-spamless@hot-nospamp-mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cpjob1hf0lh0esnksdvgaiano6killqqpi@4ax.com...
>> > On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:41:21 GMT, "The Airman" <airman@mn.rr.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>You sound far more considerate in crossing than I see most riders here.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes, I'm not a bike messenger. Those guys scare me sometimes and I
>> > know that they're really good. Still, the way they bike gives us all a
>> > bad name.
>>
>>
>
> 

TLittle wrote:
> SACRAMENTO - A man who called 911 while having chest pains in a Wal-Mart
> parking lot also phoned his wife, setting her on a wild tear Sunday
> night that resulted in a fatal hit-and-run, according to authorities.

I hope this couple had no kids.  That degree of stupidity needs to be
taken out of the gene pool.