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Article #5308Re: English pronunciation of Latin
From: Avi Jacobson
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:00
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John Cowan wrote: [Interesting and acurate explanation of US pronunciation of Latin snipped] > This pronunciation descends from that used in English monasteries before > the Protestant Reformation. When English underwent the Great Vowel > Shift > of the 1400's, English Latin changed along with it. Lawyers still use > it: > [ultra wires] would be utterly unrecognizable to a lawyer. > > "Vice versa" is now usually pronounced as English (three syllables), > and "per se", oddly enough, most often has the second word pronounced > more or less in Classical fashion: [p@r sej]. [snip] > Latin is > little taught in English-speaking countries nowadays, even to the > educated. However, when it *is* taught as a language, the > (reconstructed) Classical pronunciation is taught, though no > attention is given to double consonants. > > I used to enjoy reading Virgil aloud, emphasizing the quantitative > rhythms --- making the "long by nature" and "long by position" > syllables literally more prolonged, and the short syllables short. > It gives the _Aeneid_ the feeling of actually having been chanted > to the lyre! (Of course, that's anachronistic, but the rhythm > is founded on Homer's rhythm and isn't native to Latin at all.) You neglect to mention the only English speakers who do NOT pronounce Latin this way: musicians and Catholics -- both of whom use the Vatican pronunciation, which is almost exactly the same as the pronuncation of Italian. (Minus the Italian distinction between [e] and [E], [O] and [o], which gives the paradoxical Latin ['krE dO] vs. Italian [kre: dO].) Palato-alveolar affrication of <c> and <g> before high vowels is observed as in Italian, double consonants are pronounced, diphthongs ar reduced to [E], <h> is silent. Though no Catholic, I am enchanted by this pronunciation. But I am not objective, as I am a singer. -- Avi Jacobson, email: avi_jaco@netvision.net.il | When an idea is Home Page (Israel): | wanting, a word http://www.netvision.net.il/php/avi_jaco | can always be found Mirror Home Page (U.S.): | to take its place. http://www.geocities.com/Paris/4034 | -- Goethe
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