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Article #261Re: Dualism
From: Evan Hunt
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:59
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:59
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Don't blame me, I voted for chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers). >(1) It's logically possible that there could be a physical replica >of me without any conscious states. > >(2) Therefore the existence of conscious states is a further fact, >over and above the physical facts (i.e. it is contingent relative >to the physical facts). > >(3) Therefore dualism is true. > >If there's anything wrong with this argument, it has to be at premise >(1). I confess that this premise seems obviously true to me, but >some people would deny it. I would, at least, deny that it's *obviously* true. Consider: If dualism is false, then mind cannot be separated from matter; therefore, an object which lacks consciousness, no matter how much it looks like you, cannot be a complete replica of you. If consciousness is a dynamic, ongoing chemical reaction in your brain, an event rather than a substance, then that reaction is a part of your physical structure. A replica would have to include it, and so the replica would therefore possess consciousness as well. Your first premise should be changed to: "*If dualism is true,* then it is possible that there could be a physical replica of me without any conscious states." -- "This coffee is my blood, this breakfast burrito is my flesh. And it cost me 89 cents, so get your goddamned own." - Jeff Lester, "Saint 11"
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!scorn!evanh From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt) Subject: Re: Dualism Organization: Stan's Chosen Ones Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:59:49 GMT Message-ID: <1992Sep11.225949.10095@sco.com> References: <29sn2qc@lynx.unm.edu> <BuDoJ5.MDM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@sco.com (News admin) Lines: 31