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Article #262Re: Dualism
From: David Chalmers
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:52
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:52
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In article <BILL.92Sep11162437@ca3.nsma.arizona.edu> bill@nsma.arizona.edu (Bill Skaggs) writes: >I've heard this said before, but I don't understand it. If "The >physical world is causally closed" is a scientifically meaningful >hypothesis, then it must be falsifiable, and presumably the kind of >thing that would falsify it would be an uncaused event -- an event >that happens for no physical reason. But life is full of apparently >uncaused events; they may even be the majority. So there is actually >a great deal of evidence against the hypothesis. We simply ignore >this evidence, either because of a faith that the universe is lawful >in spite of appearances, or because we are forced to assume lawfulness >in order to do science. So what are all these uncaused events? Certainly there are some events with no apparent cause, but it seems to usually turn out that when we dig deep enough there's a cause there. Macroscpoic events seem to be constituted of lots of microscopic events, and one doesn't see very many uncaused microscopic events (with the exception of the results of quantum measurements, but the latter don't leave much room for a substantial dualism to have much causal oomph. See Eccles for a contrary opinion, however). The evidence from physics so far seems to be that modulo the indeterminacy of quantum measurement, the microscopic world is deterministic. Of course, that conclusion is highly defeasible, but I don't think it's likely to be defeated in a way that's will leave substantial enough gaps for a disembodied mind to do much interesting causal work. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!bronze.ucs.indiana.edu!chalmers From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <BuFzw9.C2H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <7511@skye.ed.ac.uk> <BuFH4G.CKo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <BILL.92Sep11162437@ca3.nsma.arizona.edu> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:52:57 GMT Lines: 31