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Article #269Re: Dualism
From: David Chalmers
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:30
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:30
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In article <1992Sep11.225949.10095@sco.com> evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt) writes: >I would, at least, deny that it's *obviously* true. Consider: If dualism >is false, then mind cannot be separated from matter; therefore, an object >which lacks consciousness, no matter how much it looks like you, cannot >be a complete replica of you. If consciousness is a dynamic, ongoing >chemical reaction in your brain, an event rather than a substance, then >that reaction is a part of your physical structure. A replica would have >to include it, and so the replica would therefore possess consciousness >as well. OK, and your assertion comes down to "if physicalism is true, then it's logically necessary that my replica would be conscious". But are there any grounds to believe the consequent, apart from prior faith in physicalism? I don't doubt that consciousness arises from dynamic chemical reactions in the brain, but how on earth could it be logically necessitated by such processes? On the face of it, it seems to be a further fact. I need just a hint of how such an entailment might go. Note the disanalogy with things like life. The aliveness of a system is entailed by the physical facts about it: the facts about life that need explaining consist in third-person facts about reproduction, adaptation, metabolism, and so on, all of which are clearly functional concepts. So, as long as the physical gunk is playing the right sorts of causal role, there's no logical gap there. Even for cognitive concepts like learning, the main facts that need explaining are things like how behaviour improves over time in response to environmental stimulation, and such facts are obviously entailed by the right kind of physical/functional story. Not so with consciousness: even when you've told the whole story about behaviour and its physical causation, there still seems to be a vast explanatory gap between that and the phenomenon of consciousness itself. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!bronze.ucs.indiana.edu!chalmers From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <BuG1nK.DGL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <29sn2qc@lynx.unm.edu> <BuDoJ5.MDM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Sep11.225949.10095@sco.com> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:30:56 GMT Lines: 38