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Article #410DETERMINISM 1: `Refutation' the first
From: David Spurrett
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 10:47
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 10:47
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DETERMINISM 1: `Refutation' number one.
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Here is one possible argument to the effect that determinism cannot be
true. It is not a `physical' argument (see `refutation' number two for one
of them) and has a few slightly contentious assumptions, but does serve to
illustrate a basic conflict between determinism and the way we normally
think of ourselves:
The argument starts from a factual observation. Our legal systems
(this is not a modern Western point, it seems universal) acknowledge a
distinction between `do-ers' and `do-ees' in a fundamental and strong
way. For example when one person pushes another over a cliff we direct
our criticism/ revenge/ abuse/ rehabilitation/ whatever at the person who
`did' the pushing. Some archaic legal systems had different economies of
`do-ers' and, for example, tried crows for crop damage. NO LEGAL SYSTEM
HAS EVER `TRIED' A LAW OF NATURE, OR A MECHANICAL DEVICE. Certainly any-
one wanting to haul the gravitational attraction which exists between
bodies possessing mass before the bench would look stupendously silly,
despite the fact that that attraction would have been an essential part
of the total cause of the death of a person pushed off a building.
An analysis of the workings of the proceedings shows that what is
presupposed of a `doer', what defines him/her is that there is believed
to be someting like a `possibility for having done otherwise.' (ie Free
Will) Indeed if it is possible to prove that the person who did the
pushing could not have done otherwise (they were hypnotised, compelled by
another person etc) then that counts as a defence. The defence works by
showing that with respect to that act they were not free; that they were,
in that respect, like the attractive force.
If we allow only the assumption that the world be in some way which al-
lows our legal procedures to be grounded in truth (which we certainly
seem to assume when using them) then the _way_ in which they work seems
to constitute an argument against determinism. This is becuase
determinism holds, in effect, that there are no `do-ers', that nothing
has the possibility of being other than it is.
The intelligibility of our legal systems can thus be seen as a sort of
_reductio ad absurdum_ of determinism. Any thoughts? [especially any
other arguments of this sort, and, of course, refutations.]
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