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Article #716No Reification Here
From: Jamie
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:07
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:07
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Randall, >I do not agree with Zeleny that quantification involves ontological >commitment to the domain over which one is quantifying as a completed >totality. It merely involves commitment to each of the objects in the >domain. I'll admit that I am committed to an ontology including all >of the quantification ranges, since there is only one, the universe, >which is in fact an object! But this involves taking unfair advantage >of my NF advocacy; even from a ZFC standpoint, it can be observed that >quantification ranges are not necessarily objects; they can be >non-reified predicates, and they can be "referred to" using >syntactical means. I hope I don't have to ask for the longer reply! But, I don't understand how using unreified predicates instead of objects helps avoid set theoretic paradoxes. Grelling's paradox uses only a predicate, and (unless I'm very confused) does not require reification. You said earlier that the REAL trick is denying Separation. That seemed promising. Can I follow up a bit? I can talk about everything all at once. But everything all at once is not a completed totality. Check. I can restrict my quantifiers, too. I suppose that denying Separation means that there are some ways I cannot restrict them. For example, I CAN say something like, "Everything blue is also square." May I also say, meaningfully, "Every quantifier that has another quantifier in its range commits its employer to abstract objects"? (I am not at all interested, right now, in whether I can say that TRULY, only MEANINGFULLY.) Can I meaningfully say, "Some quantifiers have themselves in their range."? I won't insult you by leading you down such an obvious path. You can see better than I can where this is going. Where do you get off? (Is the problem inherent in speaking of a "range"? I will be surprised if it is.) Jamie
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