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Article #794Philosophy before science ? (was : Semantics of Set Theory)
From: schiller
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 16:39
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 16:39
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You write : Philosophy is the context of science. Science (inc/math) cannot prove nor refute philosophy. Philosophy is the study of the basic facts of existence whereas science is the study of non-basic facts. ... Philosophy must not be made consistent with science. It is science which must be made consistent with philosophy. Science always contains an implicit philosophy which must be judged without any reference to science. ... Apart from the intellectual fraud, philosophy causes science. ------------------------------------- These statements are provoking and therefore interesting, but sadly they are mostly wrong. - Philosophy is not the cause of science. The cause and origin of science is curiosity. - Science *is* the study of basic facts, in contrast to what you assume. For example, physics studies time, space, matter, interactions, motion, change. All of these are basic facts. Theoretical physics is trying hard to find more basic ones, at the moment, and perhaps we can tell you more in a few years. - Science can very well prove or refute philosophical ideas. It has done so many times. Creation of life, supernatural forces in daily life, infinity of the universe, and many more are philosophical ideas that have been shown false by careful observation. - Natural science does not contain implicit philosophy (whatever that means). And surely it is not to be judged by philosophy. Science is to be judged by facts, not by philosophy. (The middle age is over, happily.) - You should define in more precise terms what you mean by philosophy. From your use of the word (as in " an implicit philosophy " ), you seem to use the term as another word for "beliefs". But to provoke you a little more, there are no beliefs in science (at least not in natural sciences). No belief is needed to be curious about the world around. Cheers Christoph Christoph Schiller Philips Research Laboratories It has been proven scientifically Eindhoven, The Netherlands that male rats are more attracted schiller@prl.philips.nl to female rats than to tennis balls.
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!relay.philips.nl!prle!schiller From: schiller@prl.philips.nl () Subject: Philosophy before science ? (was : Semantics of Set Theory) Message-ID: <1993Jan5.163922.20749@prl.philips.nl> Originator: schiller@prl.philips.nl Sender: news@prl.philips.nl (USENET News System) Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:39:22 GMT Lines: 53