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In article <1993Jan21.202625.27001@ulrik.uio.no>, solan@smauguio.no (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
>In article <TORKEL.93Jan21205323@bast.sics.se>, torkel@sics.se (Torkel
>Franzen) writes:
>|> In article <1993Jan21.183010.22929@ulrik.uio.no> solan@smaug.uio.no 
>|> (Svein Olav G. Nyberg) writes:
>|> 
>|>    >and will like Voltaire defend even his right to be met by proper
>|>    >argument, and not simply abusive language.
>|> 
>|>   I haven't noticed Voltaire saying anything about Grossman. But you are
>|> a bit hasty, surely, in speaking of his "right to be met by proper
>|> argument". Why do suppose that we have a right to be met by "proper
>|> argument" (whatever this term may mean to you), whatever abusive twaddle
>|> we spout on the net ourselves?
>
>I think it is important first to show that the guy is spreading
>"abusive twaddle" on the net, however obvious it may seem to one-
>self, regardless of person, for two reasons:
>
>1. We're showing the guy exactly what he is doing, which is
>   a stronger corrective than mere shouting and swearing. He
>   thereby gets a chance to improve himself, 

SG	Improve myself? I don't understand...That's like discussing God as 
potential...

instead of perhaps
>   being just ignorant about what he's doing.
>
>2. It _might_ have been misunderstood, and gives the guy a chance
>   to defend himself. If he cannot defend his actions without
>   further abusive twaddle, we have positively shown him what he
>   has done.
>
>In any case, the outcome is better than immediate fight.
>
>I do agree, however, that if the person in question ignore the
>good attempts and/or go on like before, then he might be told
>what your gut feelings towards him are. But first telling a
>person what he is actually doing wrong might save the newsgroup
>from a lot of flaming, and will therefore be in our own best
>interests.

SG	I have a radical suggestion: discuss philosophy instead of me.
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