Article View: sci.physics.relativity
Article #5576Re: LEE SMOLIN AGAINST ISAAC NEWTON
From: srp2inc
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:20
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:20
74 lines
4390 bytes
4390 bytes
On 7 fรฉv, 17:11, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 7, 10:51 am, srp2...@gmail.com wrote: > [...} > > > > > Any theory that predicts anything about light without reference > > > > to electromagnetism and Maxwell can only be a mathematical patchwork > > > > doomed to end up in file 13. > > > > Where do you think the massless assumption came from? > > > From ignorance of the nature of electromagnetic energy. > > Wrong, try again. > > 1) Solid research places error bars on photon mass at the 10^-17 eV > level. Consistent with zero. > 2) Maxwell's equations have no mass coupling. > 3) Proca's equations - Maxwell's equations for a massive photon - are > distinctly different from Maxwell's equations. > > > > > > You could, in theory, solve the field equations for a electromagnetic > > > stress-energy tensor with a plane wave solution. Good luck solving > > > that. > > > The Copenhagen community's moto: > > > Why make things simple when you can make them complicated ? > > You were the one bitching about me giving the simple answer. In the > optics limit, Maxwell's equations do not matter so long as waves > travel along null paths. > > If you want the exact answer, yea it's gonna be complicated. > Pretending it isn't is dishonest. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a particular > > > > > reason you can't open up a textbook, see the derivation, repeat the > > > > > derivation, and compare with observation? > > > > > I have and have rejected the method. I have a much better integrated > > > > one that can even explain the stuff that GR can't deal with. > > > > If you still don't understand how GR can make the predictions it does > > > and that it doesn't assume the things you don't think it does, no, you > > > haven't. > > > > Work on the mundane before you attack the subtle. If your theory can't > > > explain prosaic effects like perihelion precession, why would it > > > accurately explain whatever fringe effect you are focusing on this > > > time? > > > You are so disconnected Eric that it edges on unconsciousness. > > > Why don't you wake up. > > Why don't you prove your ability before making sweeping claims about > the physics community? What conceit! I have nothing to prove to you. You are meaningless. Andrรฉ Michaud
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<c4274c63-03f4-4f23-a5ba-8d300cd049b4@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mailReferences:
<e3cb16d6-c73b-4e59-9f50-5cda6da5d475@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <4695358e-db97-4485-94b4-06f417a451d4@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <6fbc34d0-9c6f-427d-8bb8-ad4f7aae5086@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <aa58a4e4-9ca1-4a06-adf7-c876cd7114ad@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <43f2564b-5f92-4427-ae78-06808efb2553@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <239b3bad-87cd-4031-b0f3-047782720f8d@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1fb930ef-a5bd-46a8-80c6-8e0229e14d9d@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <161480cc-c795-4979-b35a-6b7149a8d955@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <e1db04b8-540c-49c3-b3f1-06d6e1583010@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10f545,89f2be10e566fb3e X-Google-Thread: 10b271,89f2be10e566fb3e X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,89f2be10e566fb3e X-Google-Thread: 1139f8,89f2be10e566fb3e X-Google-Thread: f55d3,89f2be10e566fb3e X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gid1139f8,gidf55d3,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: srp2inc@gmail.com Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, fr.sci.physique, fr.sci.maths, fr.sci.philo Subject: Re: LEE SMOLIN AGAINST ISAAC NEWTON Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:24 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 75 Message-ID: <c4274c63-03f4-4f23-a5ba-8d300cd049b4@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> References: <e3cb16d6-c73b-4e59-9f50-5cda6da5d475@m62g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <4695358e-db97-4485-94b4-06f417a451d4@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <6fbc34d0-9c6f-427d-8bb8-ad4f7aae5086@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <aa58a4e4-9ca1-4a06-adf7-c876cd7114ad@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <43f2564b-5f92-4427-ae78-06808efb2553@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <239b3bad-87cd-4031-b0f3-047782720f8d@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1fb930ef-a5bd-46a8-80c6-8e0229e14d9d@d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <161480cc-c795-4979-b35a-6b7149a8d955@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <e1db04b8-540c-49c3-b3f1-06d6e1583010@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 74.58.253.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1202422825 8689 127.0.0.1 (7 Feb 2008 22:20:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 22:20:25 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com; posting-host=74.58.253.10; posting-account=_SEwFQkAAAAJGn01NeffiPl6CaCP5G-i User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071127 Firefox/2.0.0.11,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe)