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On Dec 12, 11:18, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in
sci.physics.relativity:
> On Dec 12, 1:18 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > GSS wrote:
> > > Post Relativity generations of Physicists and Mathematicians consider
> > > the spacetime continuum to be a physical entity which can even be
> > > deformed and curved. [...]
>
> > No. Not even close.
>
> > We consider the spacetime manifold to be a MODEL of the world (or of
> > interesting imaginary worlds), and to accurately model what we observe
> > that manifold must have intrinsic curvature corresponding to gravitation.
>
> > Tom Roberts
>
> But you are ready to abandon your MODEL as soon as it stops bringing
> you money and power aren't you Roberts Roberts:
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.physics/browse_frm/thread/40698de7cd7bdfb0?
> Tom Roberts, August 25: "IMHO it is the whole concept of "manifold"
> that is at most risk of becoming obsolete in future theories. That is,
> I strongly suspect that at the Planck scale the fundamental structure
> of the world is not continuous."
>
> In other words Roberts Roberts, you will abandon your MODEL as soon as
> Einstein zombie world eventually comes to realize that Einstein's 1954
> prediction is in fact today's sad reality:
>
> http://www.perimeterinstitute.ca/pdf/files/975547d7-2d00-433a-b7e3-4a09145525ca.pdf
> Albert Einstein: "I consider it entirely possible that physics cannot
> be based upon the field concept, that is on continuous structures.
> Then nothing will remain of my whole castle in the air, including the
> theory of gravitation, but also nothing of the rest of contemporary
> physics."
>
> Bryan Wallace is also relevant here:
>
> http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
> Bryan Wallace: "I expect that the scientists of the future will
> consider the dominant abstract physics theories of our time in much
> the same light as we now consider the Medieval theories of how many
> angels can dance on the head of a pin or that the Earth stands still
> and the Universe moves around it."

Bryan Wallace is even more relevant in this quotation:

http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm
Bryan Wallace: "There is a popular argument that the world's oldest
profession is sexual prostitution. I think that it is far more likely
that the oldest profession is scientific prostitution, and that it is
still alive and well, and thriving in the 20th century......The people
who tend to believe more in theories than in the scientific method of
testing theories, and who ignore the evidence against the theories
they believe in, should be considered pseudoscientists and not true
scientists. To the extent that the professed beliefs are based on the
desire for status, wealth, or political reasons, these people are
scientific prostitutes."

Pentcho Valev
pvalev@yahoo.com