🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: sci.physics.relativity
Article #7106

Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

#7106
From: Spaceman
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:30
141 lines
7738 bytes
rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> wrote:
>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
>>> wrote:
>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>>
>>>>>>>>> OMG,
>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
>>>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks work,
>>>>>>>>> nor what "time" is.
>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20
>>>>>>>>> positive feet away now.
>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>
>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>>
>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
>>>>>>> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
>>>>>>> Go ahead.
>>
>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative distance
>>>>>> away from me and not be a postive distance away when he has done
>>>>>> so. :)
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement then
>>>>> their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or negative
>>>>> direction their spanky, does that make any logical sense to you
>>>>> sir.
>>
>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>>
>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the
>>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in
>>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend
>>>>> move in a negative or positive direction.
>>
>>>> People move postive distances always.
>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
>>>> distance.
>>>> Again,
>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>>
>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
>>>> :)
>>
>>>> --
>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving away
>>> from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is
>>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers
>>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out nut
>>> sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you at
>>> that same hundred feet.
>>
>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not
>> have.
>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can
>> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing
>> the other way.
>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
>> distance
>> to begin with.
>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
>> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
>> will then have -4 apples?
>>
>> The fact of the whole thing is...
>> There are no "physical" negatives.
>>
>> --
>> James M Driscoll Jr
>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured in
> postive or negatives only distance and time

There is no "movement" "IN" time.
Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
"spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be physical
when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the physical only.

A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical mass,
the counting is abstract.
Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
moved inside it ever.
:)

-- 
James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
Technical Details
Message-ID: <DbadnQ6nDI-Da1rVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
References: <a0c3f3e8-c168-4ac0-b7ad-f5b2e819bf0a@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <9OKdncHc-47Ao1rVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@comcast.com> <a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306214@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <vGOxk.180673$le1.25409@newsfe11.ams2> <QMKdnRzCKZWkfVrVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <cf6bc710-a1a6-4afd-a8cd-14ca06bd260f@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <cvGdneAYiJTceVrVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com> <dad42fa4-1dc1-410f-b40c-f6251fdfaa34@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <U_udnRDMYY35c1rVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com> <bb5c6a78-bf96-4c4b-9a28-a702b91d1aff@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Thread: 10f545,aaa7a9de0cc00e10
X-Google-Thread: 10b271,aaa7a9de0cc00e10
X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,aaa7a9de0cc00e10
X-Google-Thread: f74ae,aaa7a9de0cc00e10
X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gidfa4c1,gidf74ae,domainid0,public,usenet
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news2.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:30:22 -0500
From: "Spaceman" <spaceman@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,fr.sci.physique,sci.astro
References: <a0c3f3e8-c168-4ac0-b7ad-f5b2e819bf0a@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <9OKdncHc-47Ao1rVnZ2dnUVZ_oninZ2d@comcast.com> <a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306214@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <vGOxk.180673$le1.25409@newsfe11.ams2> <QMKdnRzCKZWkfVrVnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <cf6bc710-a1a6-4afd-a8cd-14ca06bd260f@a2g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <cvGdneAYiJTceVrVnZ2dnUVZ_o3inZ2d@comcast.com> <dad42fa4-1dc1-410f-b40c-f6251fdfaa34@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <U_udnRDMYY35c1rVnZ2dnUVZ_srinZ2d@comcast.com> <bb5c6a78-bf96-4c4b-9a28-a702b91d1aff@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:30:06 -0400
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1933
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933
Message-ID: <DbadnQ6nDI-Da1rVnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com>
Lines: 145
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.63.120.129
X-Trace: sv3-Os5FzqeQol4WZFf+gtuqOcLEKFtbAOW/yCUn358wq1WqVCtyf1T7VzuQmd64o0M/4mRtEgEDYs27Itt!5LEZLjGyZ/VIsNK+AlKSJReuqolxoBcoJd9JP1dSdxcpJCRjotMCEkNMFrO3Y8STjQ/ZVH2EL5ZG!X6A4KfDNxXWAOxy5pzC21FCWVD2+fA==
X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net
X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.39