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Article #7107Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:36
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:36
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On Sep 10, 9:30Β am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > wrote: > >> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > >>> wrote: > >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman" > >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > > >>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman" > >>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related > > >>>>>>>>> OMG, > >>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men. > >>>>>>>>> :) > > >>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks work, > >>>>>>>>> nor what "time" is. > >>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the > >>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no > >>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe. > >>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20 > >>>>>>>>> positive feet away now. > >>>>>>>>> LOL > > >>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with > >>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman: > > >>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to > >>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans, > >>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16: > >>>>>>>http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html > >>>>>>> Go ahead. > > >>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives, > >>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative distance > >>>>>> away from me and not be a postive distance away when he has done > >>>>>> so. :) > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr > >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or > >>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement then > >>>>> their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or negative > >>>>> direction their spanky, does that make any logical sense to you > >>>>> sir. > > >>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did > >>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me. > >>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no > >>>> "negative" motion in reality. > > >>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is > >>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the > >>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a > >>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the > >>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in > >>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend > >>>>> move in a negative or positive direction. > > >>>> People move postive distances always. > >>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative > >>>> distance. > >>>> Again, > >>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not > >>>> move a positive 100 yds away. > > >>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry > >>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to > >>>> move postive nor negative to get there. > >>>> :) > > >>>> -- > >>>> James M Driscoll Jr > >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving away > >>> from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is > >>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers > >>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out nut > >>> sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you at > >>> that same hundred feet. > > >> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not > >> have. > >> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can > >> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing > >> the other way. > >> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive > >> distance > >> to begin with. > >> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative > >> distance that does not truly exist in reality. > >> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I > >> will then have -4 apples? > > >> The fact of the whole thing is... > >> There are no "physical" negatives. > > >> -- > >> James M Driscoll Jr > >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured in > > postive or negatives only distance and time > > There is no "movement" "IN" time. > Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension. > You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such > movement with an abstract dimension known as time. > "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words > together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be physical > when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the physical only. > > A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical mass, > the counting is abstract. > Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever > moved inside it ever. > :) > > -- > James M Driscoll Jr > Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So are you saying we donβt live and move or exsist within a space time continuum?
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