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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:36
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On Sep 10, 9:30Β am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
wrote:
> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > wrote:
> >> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>
> >>>>>>>>> OMG,
> >>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
> >>>>>>>>> :)
>
> >>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks work,
> >>>>>>>>> nor what "time" is.
> >>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
> >>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
> >>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
> >>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20
> >>>>>>>>> positive feet away now.
> >>>>>>>>> LOL
>
> >>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
> >>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>
> >>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
> >>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
> >>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
> >>>>>>>http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
> >>>>>>> Go ahead.
>
> >>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
> >>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative distance
> >>>>>> away from me and not be a postive distance away when he has done
> >>>>>> so. :)
>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
> >>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement then
> >>>>> their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or negative
> >>>>> direction their spanky, does that make any logical sense to you
> >>>>> sir.
>
> >>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
> >>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
> >>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
> >>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>
> >>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
> >>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
> >>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
> >>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the
> >>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in
> >>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend
> >>>>> move in a negative or positive direction.
>
> >>>> People move postive distances always.
> >>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
> >>>> distance.
> >>>> Again,
> >>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
> >>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>
> >>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
> >>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
> >>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
> >>>> :)
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving away
> >>> from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is
> >>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers
> >>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out nut
> >>> sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you at
> >>> that same hundred feet.
>
> >> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not
> >> have.
> >> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can
> >> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing
> >> the other way.
> >> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
> >> distance
> >> to begin with.
> >> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
> >> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
> >> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
> >> will then have -4 apples?
>
> >> The fact of the whole thing is...
> >> There are no "physical" negatives.
>
> >> --
> >> James M Driscoll Jr
> >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured in
> > postive or negatives only distance and time
>
> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be physical
> when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the physical only.
>
> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical mass,
> the counting is abstract.
> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
> moved inside it ever.
> :)
>
> --
> James M Driscoll Jr
> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So are you saying we don’t live and move or exsist within a space time
continuum?
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