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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:42
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On Sep 10, 9:36ย am, rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 9:30ย am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> wrote:
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> > rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > > wrote:
> > >> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
> > >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
> > >>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> > >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
> > >>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>
> > >>>>>>>>> OMG,
> > >>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
> > >>>>>>>>> :)
>
> > >>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks work,
> > >>>>>>>>> nor what "time" is.
> > >>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
> > >>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
> > >>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
> > >>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20
> > >>>>>>>>> positive feet away now.
> > >>>>>>>>> LOL
>
> > >>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
> > >>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>
> > >>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
> > >>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
> > >>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
> > >>>>>>>http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
> > >>>>>>> Go ahead.
>
> > >>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
> > >>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative distance
> > >>>>>> away from me and not be a postive distance away when he has done
> > >>>>>> so. :)
>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> > >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> > >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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> > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
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> > >>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
> > >>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement then
> > >>>>> their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or negative
> > >>>>> direction their spanky, does that make any logical sense to you
> > >>>>> sir.
>
> > >>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
> > >>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
> > >>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
> > >>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>
> > >>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
> > >>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
> > >>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
> > >>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the
> > >>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in
> > >>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend
> > >>>>> move in a negative or positive direction.
>
> > >>>> People move postive distances always.
> > >>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
> > >>>> distance.
> > >>>> Again,
> > >>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
> > >>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>
> > >>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
> > >>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
> > >>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
> > >>>> :)
>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> > >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> > >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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> > >>>> - Show quoted text -
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> > >>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving away
> > >>> from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is
> > >>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers
> > >>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out nut
> > >>> sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you at
> > >>> that same hundred feet.
>
> > >> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not
> > >> have.
> > >> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can
> > >> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing
> > >> the other way.
> > >> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
> > >> distance
> > >> to begin with.
> > >> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
> > >> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
> > >> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
> > >> will then have -4 apples?
>
> > >> The fact of the whole thing is...
> > >> There are no "physical" negatives.
>
> > >> --
> > >> James M Driscoll Jr
> > >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> > >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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> > >> - Show quoted text -
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> > > I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured in
> > > postive or negatives only distance and time
>
> > There is no "movement" "IN" time.
> > Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
> > You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
> > movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
> > "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
> > together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be physical
> > when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the physical only.
>
> > A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical mass,
> > the counting is abstract.
> > Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
> > moved inside it ever.
> > :)
>
> > --
> > James M Driscoll Jr
> > Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> > Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> So are you saying we donโ€™t live and move or exsist within a space time
> continuum?- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
or you dont belive in space time continuum
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