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Article #7108Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:42
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:42
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On Sep 10, 9:36ย am, rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sep 10, 9:30ย am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > wrote: > > > > > > > rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > > wrote: > > >> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman" > > >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > > >>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > >>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com > > >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman" > > >>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related > > > >>>>>>>>> OMG, > > >>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men. > > >>>>>>>>> :) > > > >>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks work, > > >>>>>>>>> nor what "time" is. > > >>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the > > >>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no > > >>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe. > > >>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20 > > >>>>>>>>> positive feet away now. > > >>>>>>>>> LOL > > > >>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with > > >>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman: > > > >>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to > > >>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans, > > >>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16: > > >>>>>>>http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html > > >>>>>>> Go ahead. > > > >>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives, > > >>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative distance > > >>>>>> away from me and not be a postive distance away when he has done > > >>>>>> so. :) > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr > > >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > > >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or > > >>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement then > > >>>>> their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or negative > > >>>>> direction their spanky, does that make any logical sense to you > > >>>>> sir. > > > >>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did > > >>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me. > > >>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no > > >>>> "negative" motion in reality. > > > >>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is > > >>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the > > >>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a > > >>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the > > >>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in > > >>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend > > >>>>> move in a negative or positive direction. > > > >>>> People move postive distances always. > > >>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative > > >>>> distance. > > >>>> Again, > > >>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not > > >>>> move a positive 100 yds away. > > > >>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry > > >>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to > > >>>> move postive nor negative to get there. > > >>>> :) > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> James M Driscoll Jr > > >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > > >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > > >>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving away > > >>> from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is > > >>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers > > >>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out nut > > >>> sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you at > > >>> that same hundred feet. > > > >> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not > > >> have. > > >> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can > > >> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing > > >> the other way. > > >> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive > > >> distance > > >> to begin with. > > >> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative > > >> distance that does not truly exist in reality. > > >> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I > > >> will then have -4 apples? > > > >> The fact of the whole thing is... > > >> There are no "physical" negatives. > > > >> -- > > >> James M Driscoll Jr > > >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > > >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured in > > > postive or negatives only distance and time > > > There is no "movement" "IN" time. > > Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension. > > You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such > > movement with an abstract dimension known as time. > > "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words > > together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be physical > > when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the physical only. > > > A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical mass, > > the counting is abstract. > > Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever > > moved inside it ever. > > :) > > > -- > > James M Driscoll Jr > > Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > > Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > So are you saying we donโt live and move or exsist within a space time > continuum?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - or you dont belive in space time continuum
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