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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: Spaceman
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:08
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rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> wrote:
>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
>>> wrote:
>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OMG,
>>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks
>>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is.
>>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
>>>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
>>>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
>>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20
>>>>>>>>>>> positive feet away now.
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>>
>>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
>>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
>>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
>>>>>>>>>
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
>>>>>>>>> Go ahead.
>>
>>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
>>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative
>>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when
>>>>>>>> he has done so. :)
>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
>>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement
>>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or
>>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical
>>>>>>> sense to you sir.
>>
>>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
>>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
>>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
>>>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>>
>>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
>>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
>>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
>>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the
>>>>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in
>>>>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend
>>>>>>> move in a negative or positive direction.
>>
>>>>>> People move postive distances always.
>>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
>>>>>> distance.
>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
>>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>>
>>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
>>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
>>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving
>>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is
>>>>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers
>>>>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out
>>>>> nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you
>>>>> at that same hundred feet.
>>
>>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not
>>>> have.
>>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can
>>>> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing
>>>> the other way.
>>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
>>>> distance
>>>> to begin with.
>>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
>>>> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
>>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
>>>> will then have -4 apples?
>>
>>>> The fact of the whole thing is...
>>>> There are no "physical" negatives.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured
>>> in postive or negatives only distance and time
>>
>> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
>> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
>> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
>> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
>> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
>> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be
>> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the
>> physical only.
>>
>> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical
>> mass, the counting is abstract.
>> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
>> moved inside it ever.
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> James M Driscoll Jr
>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> So are you saying we donοΏ½t live and move or exsist within a space time
> continuum?

Correct, we "exist" in space and we invented time to count and measure
our motion and time our existance in "space".
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