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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: Spaceman
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09
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rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 9:36 am, rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman"
>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OMG,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks
>>>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not
>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 positive feet away now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>>
>>>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
>>>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
>>>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
>>>>>>>>>>
http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
>>>>>>>>>> Go ahead.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
>>>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative
>>>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when
>>>>>>>>> he has done so. :)
>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
>>>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement
>>>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or
>>>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical
>>>>>>>> sense to you sir.
>>
>>>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
>>>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
>>>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
>>>>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>>
>>>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
>>>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
>>>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
>>>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of
>>>>>>>> the movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an
>>>>>>>> hour in the direction of the trains forward path can you or
>>>>>>>> your friend move in a negative or positive direction.
>>
>>>>>>> People move postive distances always.
>>>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
>>>>>>> distance.
>>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
>>>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>>
>>>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
>>>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
>>>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
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>>>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving
>>>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance
>>>>>> is achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the
>>>>>> veiwers frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out
>>>>>> blowing out nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative
>>>>>> distance from you at that same hundred feet.
>>
>>>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does
>>>>> not have.
>>>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they
>>>>> can prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others
>>>>> facing the other way.
>>>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
>>>>> distance
>>>>> to begin with.
>>>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
>>>>> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
>>>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
>>>>> will then have -4 apples?
>>
>>>>> The fact of the whole thing is...
>>>>> There are no "physical" negatives.
>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>> - Show quoted text -
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>>>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured
>>>> in postive or negatives only distance and time
>>
>>> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
>>> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
>>> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
>>> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
>>> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
>>> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be
>>> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the
>>> physical only.
>>
>>> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical
>>> mass, the counting is abstract.
>>> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
>>> moved inside it ever.
>>> :)
>>
>>> --
>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
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>>> - Show quoted text -
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>> So are you saying we donοΏ½t live and move or exsist within a space
>> time continuum?- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
> or you dont belive in space time continuum

It is a great "scifi" concept.
But I happen to learn the history of "time" and how clocks
work so I know better than such scifi when it comes to science and
history and the difference between abstract and physical.
:)
-- 
James M Driscoll Jr
Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
Spaceman
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