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Article #7110Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
From: Spaceman
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:09
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rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote: > On Sep 10, 9:36 am, rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" >>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: >>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" >>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: >>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman" >>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman" >>>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related >> >>>>>>>>>>>> OMG, >>>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men. >>>>>>>>>>>> :) >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks >>>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is. >>>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the >>>>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no >>>>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe. >>>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not >>>>>>>>>>>> 20 positive feet away now. >>>>>>>>>>>> LOL >> >>>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with >>>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman: >> >>>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to >>>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans, >>>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16: >>>>>>>>>> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html >>>>>>>>>> Go ahead. >> >>>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives, >>>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative >>>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when >>>>>>>>> he has done so. :) >> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr >>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory >>>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or >>>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement >>>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or >>>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical >>>>>>>> sense to you sir. >> >>>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did >>>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me. >>>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no >>>>>>> "negative" motion in reality. >> >>>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is >>>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the >>>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a >>>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of >>>>>>>> the movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an >>>>>>>> hour in the direction of the trains forward path can you or >>>>>>>> your friend move in a negative or positive direction. >> >>>>>>> People move postive distances always. >>>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative >>>>>>> distance. >>>>>>> Again, >>>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not >>>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away. >> >>>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry >>>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to >>>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there. >>>>>>> :) >> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr >>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory >>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving >>>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance >>>>>> is achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the >>>>>> veiwers frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out >>>>>> blowing out nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative >>>>>> distance from you at that same hundred feet. >> >>>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does >>>>> not have. >>>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they >>>>> can prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others >>>>> facing the other way. >>>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive >>>>> distance >>>>> to begin with. >>>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative >>>>> distance that does not truly exist in reality. >>>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I >>>>> will then have -4 apples? >> >>>>> The fact of the whole thing is... >>>>> There are no "physical" negatives. >> >>>>> -- >>>>> James M Driscoll Jr >>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory >>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured >>>> in postive or negatives only distance and time >> >>> There is no "movement" "IN" time. >>> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension. >>> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such >>> movement with an abstract dimension known as time. >>> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words >>> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be >>> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the >>> physical only. >> >>> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical >>> mass, the counting is abstract. >>> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever >>> moved inside it ever. >>> :) >> >>> -- >>> James M Driscoll Jr >>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory >>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - >> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> So are you saying we donοΏ½t live and move or exsist within a space >> time continuum?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > or you dont belive in space time continuum It is a great "scifi" concept. But I happen to learn the history of "time" and how clocks work so I know better than such scifi when it comes to science and history and the difference between abstract and physical. :) -- James M Driscoll Jr Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory Spaceman
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