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Article #7370Re: Rest mass
From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:48
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:48
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On Jul 21, 8:51 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote: > On Jul 21, 8:28 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > And I say that because if you happen to see one do that and claim that > > > > is what you saw, who am I to say that you are nuts, if you see it do > > > > that, see it land, then touch it, it is real and you burn your hand. > > > > I am just saying that there is no proof of that and it seems > > > > impossible according to our level of understanding. > > > > You see if you can see it? If you can see the ship, it is giving off > > > waves isn't it? > > > So light has no resistance in the foam, but dark energy waves, other > > > waves in the spectrum, larger waves do add up and will push against > > > the air molecules, and the skin, from the nuclei, of your ship, will > > > press against the skin of the quantum foam bubbles. > > > So if you bounce radar off it, then you assume it is solid. > > > So then if radar is bouncing off it, why is the dark energy waves of > > > the air molecules, which is just more em waves at a different energy, > > > less energy but the same, not also bouncing off it, and if it does, > > > then you have a mass problem. > > > > Again, take tow strong magnets, and hold like poles in proximity. That > > > is what it feels like when these waves go against each other. > > > Granted in a magnet the waves are aligned, but then you are feeling a > > > small force there. > > > Travel 6 thousand miles an hour in a several ton ship and do a 90. > > > No living occupants in that ship. > > > How could there be? > > > Anything with mass has momentum. > > > All that forward momentum, suddenly taking a 90? > > > Well that is largely why scientists don't believe in flying saucers. > > > Could you transfer that momentum, from a forward direction, then take > > a ninety, and just turn it, so the momentum is still there, but now > > facing another direction? > > I a very rapidly spinning disk, you might be able to. > > And if, you inside of that ship, were not spinning, but an outer shell > > was spinning, maybe you wouldn't be affected. > > Or would you be? > > Step on the gas with your windows up. > > Do you feel that quantum foam pressing against you? > > Of course you do. > > Its everywhere and you are just going through it. > > It is so small, that it permeates the universe. > > Since inflation, the whole thing is foam. > > So regardless of how your ship would handle the air resistance, you > > have momentum relative to absolute space-time. > > Yourself. Never mind the ship. > > The earth drags a lot of it with it as it goes through space, as does > > the moon and all other massive bodies, but small bodies feel the force > > of accelerated mass in the form of G's. > > So in your ship, how do escape the foam? > > Is it a perfect vacuum? It can't be. Nothing can withstand that > > pressure, even black holes explode. > > So even in your flying saucer, you are traveling through foam. > > Well what if the hull of your ship was solid nuclei like a neutron > > star. > > It would weigh as much as the earth then. > > Its not as if you can just say well maybe our physics is not the right > > physics it is the right physics and our current models, have been put > > to the test and never failed even from the smallest imaginable test, > > like measuring the momentum, of the skin, of a nucleus bubble, hitting > > the quantum foam, after you drain it. > > Predicted, proven, and in accordance with theory. > > So ok, the earth is plowing through the quantum foam no problem, large > massive body, displacing a large area, and spinning to help to slough > it off so it is not hitting it head on. > > So your ship then, sends out waves a mile in all directions, pushing > the quantum foam away from you displacing a large area, > and your ship is spinning, to slough off head on wave fronts. It > can't push the foam away but it can create a low pressure area, so > that the foam will not bunch up, gain mass and hinder you through it. > Well if they are real, then there must be some explanation, and maybe > that could explain it. > But you would see the clouds displaced if those waves were pushing the > foam away, they would be pushing the air molecules away as the waves > would be impacting the skin of the air and water molecules as it > impacts the skin of the quantum foam. > So then that leaves super fluid, capable of sloughing off the quantum > foam in your surroundings, and you must carry your own foam under > pressure, so you don't decompress and explode. > The foam you carry with you, is not giving you resistance you don't > feel G's because it is moving with you in your reference frame. > The skin of your ship has a superfluid coating, which under all > circumstances, will slough off the foam outside the ship so it has no > resistance. > Maybe even faster than light since if it can slough it off at 25 or 30 > thousand miles per hour, the quantum foam bubbles are not being > compressed, and if they are not being compressed, the walls of the > bubbles wouldn't be squished in until the hit each other, which is > where you would have a problem at the light barrier. > So all you have to do, is find a way to use the superfluid stuff of > the universe, to coat your ship. You see with the million or so reports of flying disks taking off at incredible speeds, not a single sonic boom. How is that possible? Unless there is no friction between the air and their ship. No wave front. We need to shoot some Bose-Einstein condensate or squirt it into a target and coat something with it and accelerate it through a liquid, and these sorts of experiments to see how it reacts with the quantum foam of absolute space-time.
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