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Article #803Re: MAXWELL'S ELECTRODYNAMICS AND THE SPEED OF LIGHT
From: Argir Pando Vasil Dobri Matea Ka...
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:24
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 08:24
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On Jan 20, 9:22 am, Argir Pando Vasil Dobri Matea Karagorgovi <nada...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 20, 9:14 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > According to Maxwell's electrodynamics, the speed of light is > > independent of the speed of the emitter but does depend on the speed > > of the observer (that is, it is inconsistent with Einstein's special > > relativity). Einsteinians know that but they also know that the lie: > > > "By 1905 Maxwell's electrodynamics had already established that the > > speed of light is independent of the motion of both the emitter and > > the observer" > > > is crucial for the existence of Einsteiniana. Still sometimes (very > > rarely) careless Einsteinians do tell the truth. Here are one explicit > > and one implicit (John Norton hints at the truth by not mentioning the > > observer) confessions: > > >http://www.futura-sciences.com/fr/doc/t/physique/d/relativite-restrei... > > "Les équations de Maxwell prévoyaient la propagation de la lumière à > > la vitesse de 300.000 km/s par rapport à l'éther. Or, si l'on cherche > > à calculer la vitesse de la lumière par rapport à un référentiel qui > > est lui-même mobile dans l'éther, on observe que la lumière se propage > > avec une vitesse différente..." > > >http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/companion.doc > > John Norton: "Einstein's second postulate, the light postulate, > > asserts that "light is always propagated in empty space with a > > definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the > > emitting body." Einstein gave no justification for this postulate in > > the introduction to his paper. Its strongest justification came from > > Maxwell's electrodynamics. That theory had identified light with waves > > propagating in an electromagnetic field and concluded that just one > > speed was possible for them in empty space, c = 300,000 km/sec, no > > matter what the motion of the emitter." > > > Countless blatant lies: > > >http://sampit.geol.sc.edu/Doppler.html > > "Moving observer: A man is standing on the beach, watching the tide. > > The waves are washing into the shore and over his feet with a constant > > frequency and wavelength. However, if he begins walking out into the > > ocean, the waves will begin hitting him more frequently, leading him > > to perceive that the wavelength of the waves has decreased. Again, > > this phenomenon is due to the fact that the source and the observer > > are not the in the same frame of reference. Although the wavelength > > appears to have decreased to the man, the wavelength would appear > > constant to a jellyfish floating along with the tide." > > >http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/ind... > > John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer > > were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now > > pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would > > mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to > > have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE > > BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." > > >http://www.math.mcgill.ca/lseguin/physique.php > > "Donc, Maxwell se demanda: "Mais pourquoi donc mes paramètres > > correspondent-ils à la vitesse de la lumière ?" Et il fit des calculs > > palpitants pendant longtemps. Après des heures de plaisir, il trouva > > que ses équations prédisaient une vitesse c pour les ondes > > électromagnétiques (la lumière par exemple) et que cette vitesse c > > était une constante, peut importe le référentiel. Donc, peut importe > > qui mesure la vitesse de la lumière, ça sera toujours c." > > >http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=1711 > > "D'après les théories de la physique moderne, et notamment les > > équations de Maxwell, la lumière visible (La lumière visible, appelée > > aussi spectre visible ou spectre optique est la partie du spectre > > électromagnétique qui est...) et toutes les ondes électromagnétiques > > ont une vitesse constante dans le vide, la vitesse de la lumière. On > > la considère donc comme une constante physique (En science, une > > constante physique est une quantité physique dont la valeur numérique > > est fixe. Contrairement à une...) notée c (du latin celeritas, « > > vitesse »). Mais elle n'est pas seulement constante (pense-t-on) en > > tous les endroits (et à tous les âges) de l'univers (On nomme univers > > l'ensemble de tout ce qui existe, comprenant la totalité des êtres et > > des choses (celle-ci comprenant...) (principes cosmologiques faible et > > fort, respectivement) ; elle l'est également d'un repère inertiel à un > > autre (principe d'équivalence restreint). En d'autres termes : quel > > que soit le repère inertiel de référence d'un observateur ou la > > vitesse de l'objet émettant la lumière, tout observateur obtiendra la > > même mesure." > > > Pentcho Valev > > pva...@yahoo.com > > http://www.speeding-ticket-traffic-citation.com/speeding-tickets/the-... Hear Me Zion: A i Dot Lever i Ki Do!!
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