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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:32
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On Aug 6, 3:33�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted
> >>>>>>>>>>>> text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases?
> >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
> >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence
> >>>>>>> in a court case.
> >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
> >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever,
> >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
> >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> >>>> Want me to demolish that claim, too?
> >>> Go ahead and try. Show where one of these police state judges has
> >>> allowed the Constitution in police state court.
> >> So glad for your permission.
>
> >> United States v. Donald Fell
> >> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional
> >> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf
>
> > This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury. �This case does
> > not apply.
>
> This case most certainly applies. �You asked for a case wherein the
> Constitution was used as evidence. �The Constitution was used as
> evidence in this case.
>
If there was a jury, then police state justice was not imposed on the
defendant.  You need to find another case.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
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