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Article #10995Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:32
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:32
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On Aug 6, 3:33�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples > >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted > >>>>>>>>>>>> text - > >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? > >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? > >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence > >>>>>>> in a court case. > >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? > >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, > >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. > >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the > >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. > >>>> Want me to demolish that claim, too? > >>> Go ahead and try. Show where one of these police state judges has > >>> allowed the Constitution in police state court. > >> So glad for your permission. > > >> United States v. Donald Fell > >> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional > >> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf > > > This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury. �This case does > > not apply. > > This case most certainly applies. �You asked for a case wherein the > Constitution was used as evidence. �The Constitution was used as > evidence in this case. > If there was a jury, then police state justice was not imposed on the defendant. You need to find another case. Robert B. Winn
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