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On Aug 6, 3:33�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
> >>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
> >>>>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as
> >>>>>>>> evidence.
> >>>>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern
> >>>>>>>> time crime or cases?
> >>>>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I
> >>>>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that
> >>>>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence.
> >>>>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is
> >>>>>> nil at this point.
> >>>>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only
> >>>>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms.
> >>>> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence?
> >>>>> That does not mean that the Bible
> >>>>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to
> >>>>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence.
> >>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear.
> >>>> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence.
> >>>> --
> >>> So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does
> >>> not exist.
> >> Um. No.
> > � If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. �So does it exist or not?
>
> It exists, but is not evidence.
>
If it is not evidence, then in what way does it exist?
Robert B. Winn