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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:36
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On Aug 6, 4:18�am, mizlee <miz...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 6:37 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > Steve O wrote:
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> > > "DanielSan" <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> > >news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>> On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > >>>>news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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> > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> day of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> unto
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> were so
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> fish
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> text -
> > >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> > >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> > >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> > >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> > >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases?
> > >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
> > >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as
> > >>>>>>> evidence
> > >>>>>>> in a court case.
> > >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
> > >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics.
> > >>>>>> Clever,
> > >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
> > >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> > >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> > >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
> > >>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and
> > >>>> how could
> > >>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular
> > >>>> circumstabces?
>
> > >>>> --
> > >>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
> > >>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". The judge
> > >>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
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> > >> Then you can appeal.
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> > > Not on those grounds he can't.
> > > ;-)
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> > > The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the
> > > judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and
> > > incorrect.
> > > Not much chance of that, is there?
>
> > He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. :-)
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> > --
> > ****************************************************
> > * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
> > *--------------------------------------------------*
> > * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
> > * can't eat it? *
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> It's been a couple weeks since I even looked at this thread, so I
> decided to check in. �rbwinn is still drooling, and several of you are
> still trying to engage him. �It's like trying to deal with an
> Alzheimer's patient; they have their own reality, and NOTHING you can
> do can get through to them - ever. Your excuse that onlookers might
> become more knowledgeable by seeing what nutters are really like long
> ago reached the point of diminishing returns. �Are you so locked into
> this ridiculous dance you simply cannot stop? �Do you really think the
> looney will "win" if he has the last word? �rbwinn is best left to
> babble on his own - please trust me on this.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I think that some of these atheists may be genuinely interested in
relativity, mizlee.   Since they are posting in
sci.physics.relativity, I need to give them the benefit of the
doubt.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:36:34 -0700 (PDT)
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