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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:56
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On Aug 2, 7:28�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 2, 4:22 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 2, 9:51 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 1, 7:33 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 6:48 am, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:48:10 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 9:07?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>news:6feg2oFb88s6U1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>news:03071fc3-e432-49b6-a4a5-c22bd4a879ab@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:45?pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:47 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 1:19 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 12:11 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 20, 9:59 am, "Alex W." <ing...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:85ce5d7c-67c2-4090-8fd1-14d9b48f203d@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are only two commandments in the Law of Christ:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Love the Lord thy God, Love thy neighbor as thyself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but I draw the line at giving my neighbour hand jobs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (as he will no doubt be relieved to hear).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who engages in homosexuality does not love the other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> person,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since he is contributing to that person's damnation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up this silly claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you take it up with Einstein when he returns, that idea
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing to do with me.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Einstein be interested in homosexuality?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why would Jesus?- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> All homosexuals will be judged by Jesus, the same as with sinners of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> any kind.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites. ?But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. ? Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>>>>> Stop being such an idiot.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why do you equate atheism with pro-abortionism?
> >>>>>>>>>>> They are not the same thing.
> >>>>>>>>>>> You have already been corrected in your mistaken belief that all atheists
> >>>>>>>>>>> are pro-abortion, so why do you insist on lying?
> >>>>>>>>>> We may be (and I am) pro-choice, but none, AFAIK, are pro-abortion.
> >>>>>>>>> Pro-choice today is used interchangably with pro-abortion.
> >>>>>>>> Only by liars, particularly the liars who call themselves pro-life, but
> >>>>>>>> prove by their politics that they love killing people.
> >>>>>>>>> You are
> >>>>>>>>> not pro-choice because you are opposed to the choices that would be
> >>>>>>>>> made by any children killed by abortion.
> >>>>>>>> Children are not killed by abortion.- Hide quoted text -
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>>>> Well, here we are at another word besides gay that atheists are trying
> >>>>>>> to change the meaning of. Fortunately for Christian people, we have
> >>>>>>> the Bible.
> >>>>>>> Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of
> >>>>>>> Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called
> >>>>>>> Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
> >>>>>>> 5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
> >>>>>>> So do you really think you are going to be able to change the meaning?
> >>>>>> Yes. We're not going to allow you to change the meaning of the word
> >>>>>> "child" to mean anything from fertilization on.
> >>>>> Well, take a good look at verse five. That was not written by me. It
> >>>>> was written by a physician .
> >>>> Verse 5....in which translation?
> >>>> Hint: Luke was not written in English.
> >>> It means the same in Greek as it does in English.
> >> Yes. �It doesn't say anything about "child". �It says "���� (egkuos)".
> >> � Egkuos means pregnant.
>
> > So you are saying that Luke as a physician was so ignorant that he
> > could not tell that a pregnant woman was with child?
>
> Luke didn't write the Gospel of Luke, numbnuts.
>
> Secondly, "with child" is not a medical term. �It is a colloquialism.
> Are you seriously suggesting that, since some people call being pregnant
> being "with child", that that means that there is a child in the womb?
>
> I was at the store today and I heard a wife call her husband a "honey
> bunny". �Does that mean that husband is lapine in nature and is covered
> in the thick processed pollen of flowers?
>
So you say you were convinced that a pregnant woman does not have a
child in her womb because a woman at the store called her husband
honey bunny.  What you probably will want to do is to find someone who
reads a lot of Harry Potter books and tell that person about your
experience.  Since I read the Bible, it just does not have the same
effect on me.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:56:31 -0700 (PDT)
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