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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 1, 11:54�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 1, 8:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Jul 31, 6:21 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 5:52 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 10:15 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 6:14 pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:9dcddedb-bce6-457f-b0c5-d9a6d2bb6bd7@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 10:04?am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:8ab589a3-2731-4a92-a41e-d6870a4e6f4b@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 10:08 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:efa8da13-56b6-4386-bfe5-c571b689a669@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have no evidence at all about God.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like me to send you a copy of the Bible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could, but it would be much better if you could provide some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God sent His Only Begotten Son, Steve. ?If that was not enough for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you, nothing I could do or say is going to convince you of anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Got any evidence that Jesus was the son of God?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please don't say, "the Bible" - that isn't evidence of anything at all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just an old, old story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually the Bible is evidence of Hezekiah's tunnel. Three
>>>>>>>>>>>> different books of the Old Testament describe the construction of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ================================
>>>>>>>>>>>> Several of the Harry Potter books mention Kings Cross station.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does that make the Harry Potter stories true?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Smiler,
>>>>>>>>>>> Why don't you spend some more time studying it, Smiler, and decide for
>>>>>>>>>>> yourself? I know that atheists are a little lacking in self-
>>>>>>>>>>> confidence, but I think you could decide this question for yourself.
>>>>>>>>>> I've studied Hezekiah's Tunnel since you brought it up. I still fail to
>>>>>>>>>> see what its existence has to do with the truthfulness of the Bible.
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>>>>>>>>>> * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
>>>>>>>>> Well, first you would have to make a decision about Hezekiah's
>>>>>>>>> tunnel. Does the tunnel really exist or is it just a hoax the way one
>>>>>>>>> atheist claimed?
>>>>>>>> Which atheist? Provide a quote.
>>>>>>>>> Then if you decide it exists, how does that relate
>>>>>>>>> to the description of its construction in the Old Testament? Was the
>>>>>>>>> tunnel seen today the tunnel described in the Old Testament, or is it
>>>>>>>>> some other tunnel the way atheists continue to say in this newsgroup?
>>>>>>>> Which atheists? Provide quotes.
>>>>>>>>> I know this is difficult, but it really is possible for an atheist to
>>>>>>>>> make a decision about this.
>>>>>>>>> The verses of the Bible that describe the construction of Hezekiah's
>>>>>>>>> tunnel are either true, or they are false. So far, having said that
>>>>>>>>> the Bible is only myth, atheists are not willing to admit that there
>>>>>>>>> are verses describing the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel that are
>>>>>>>>> obviously true.
>>>>>>>> How about this mindblower:
>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's Tunnel exists. The Bible talks about it. The Bible is
>>>>>>>> true...on this fact only...but has nothing to do with the truthfulness
>>>>>>>> of the Bible.
>>>>>>>> Look at every fiction story ever written. A great majority of them
>>>>>>>> write about the Earth. An even greater majority talk about humans.
>>>>>>>> Does that mean that the book itself is now nonfiction since it describe
>>>>>>>> the Earth exactly how we see it today and how humans are?
>>>>>>> Well, we have made progress to a point, that an atheist has admitted
>>>>>>> that the Biblical account of the construction of Hezekiah's tunnel is
>>>>>>> true. First of all, not all fiction books describe the construction
>>>>>>> of something that can be observed.
>>>>>> And that's irrelevant.
>>>>>>> But your premise is wrong. Just because you can find a fiction book
>>>>>>> that describes something that can be seen does not prove that all
>>>>>>> books that describe something that can be seen are fiction.
>>>>>> Doesn't prove they're nonfiction, either. You're starting to get it.
>>>>>> Just because a book talks about the construction of something is
>>>>>> irrelevant to the veracity of the book.
>>>>> No, it is not irrelevant.
>>>> Yes. Yes, it is.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> furthest you can go would be to say that the book that describes
>>>>>>> something that can be seen could be fiction or non-fiction, but you
>>>>>>> cannot say that you have proven it to be fiction. So you would have
>>>>>>> to find something else in the book that you claim is fiction, not
>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, which has been proven to be non-fiction. I hope
>>>>>>> this will help you in your studies.
>>>>>> When you get on to proving that God thing as non-fiction, do let me know.
>>>>>> --
>>>>> God already proved it. If you reject the atonement of Christ for your
>>>>> sins, it is your problem, not mine.
>>>> God has done nothing of the sort. Someone told you that God proved it,
>>>> but do you have any evidence that he did?
>>>> PS: Your threat given vicariously through some dead guy we can't even
>>>> show to exist is summarily rejected.
>>> There is no threat. �
>> Sure there is. �The failure to atone for "sins" is everlasting torture.
>>
>>> You atheists say that you do not want to enter
>>> heaven. �You will get exactly what you say you want. �So where is the
>>> threat?
>>> It is a threat to give someone what they say they want?
>> You've not heard of "Hell", have you?
> 
> Well, but you atheists would be more miserable in the presence of God
> than you would be in the presence of Satan.  If you want to be with
> Satan, you should be allowed to be with Satan.

How about this?  We cannot "prefer" to be with any imaginary creature?

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