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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Steve O
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:19
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"rbwinn" <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote in message 
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> On Jul 20, 3:35 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>> > On Jul 19, 8:49 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>> On Jul 19, 7:19 am, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>> On Jul 18, 8:13 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>> On Jul 18, 4:06 pm, BuddyThunder <nos...@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 6:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:43 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 5:26 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 7:24 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 17, 12:09 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 15, 1:25�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>news:c6ff2090-3c5f-4de6-97bf-0641d818d2e2@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When are you going to admit you're a satanist, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bobbie?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have never been involved in atheism.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satanism is a faith.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not a subset of atheism.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve O
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, atheism is a cult of people who say, We do not 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following anything., who follow Satan around.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Christian are those that say they follow a god of 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> love, who in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fact follow one of the most evil deities of all history.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Exactly which teachings of Jesus Christ do you find to be 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evil?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, you think that Christians ONLY follow the teachings of 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesus? What,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for example, did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He said to repent from any sins. That would include 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Homosexuality isn't a sin.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Now, what did Jesus say about homosexuality?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jesus Christ said that repentance from any sin is necessary 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> before the
>> >>>>>>>>>>> person can enter heaven. That includes the sin of 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuality.
>> >>>>>>>>>> But homosexuality is not a sin. Unless you can find where it 
>> >>>>>>>>>> says that
>> >>>>>>>>>> it is.
>> >>>>>>>>> Homosexuality is a sin regardless of what I do. There is no one 
>> >>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>>>>>> earth who cannot tell that homosexuality is a sin.
>> >>>>>>>> I'm on the Earth, and I have no problem with gay people. What 
>> >>>>>>>> they do in
>> >>>>>>>> the privacy of their homes doesn't impact on me one iota. Why on 
>> >>>>>>>> Earth
>> >>>>>>>> would I have a problem with homosexuals?- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>>>>>> I did not say you had a problem. I said that you are able to tell
>> >>>>>>> that homosexuality is a sin. If you say you cannot tell it is a 
>> >>>>>>> sin,
>> >>>>>>> you are not telling the truth.
>> >>>>>> I don't even subscribe to the concept of sin, so no I don't think 
>> >>>>>> it
>> >>>>>> sinful. You may think it wrong, I don't. I can't think of any 
>> >>>>>> reason I
>> >>>>>> would.- Hide quoted text -
>> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>> >>>>> Well, you would not think of it as sin when your fellow atheist 
>> >>>>> Josef
>> >>>>> Stalin killed 12 million people. He was just born that way like
>> >>>>> homosexuals are, right?
>> >>>> Immoral behaviour exists quite apart from "sin" outside your wacky 
>> >>>> myths.
>> >>>> You will note that we're not all killing peasants left, right and 
>> >>>> centre.- Hide quoted text -
>> >>> Homosexuality is immoral behavior. So is killing 12 million people.
>> >> Homosexuality is not immoral.
>>
>> > Explain it to Jesus Christ. It does not have anything to do with me.
>>
>> This is a neat trick.
>>
>> Your religion has allowed you to disavow any responsibility for your
>> bigotry.
>>
>> ...and because it's a religious opinion, it automatically gets more
>> respect than it deserves.
>>
>> You can hold the vilest of opinions, and never have to back them up at 
>> all.
>>
>> Genius!- Hide quoted text -

That's how religion works.
It gives people excuses to behave atrociously, all in the name of God.
So immoral.

>>
>
> If you do not like it, complain to Jesus Christ.  He told us to stay
> out of homosexuality.
> Robert B. Winn
>

Please quote the part of the New Testament where he does that.
Or go back and read your bible properly.

-- 
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
Convicted by Earthquack
Exempt from purgatory by papal indulgence


 
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From: "Steve O" <nospamhere@thanks.com>
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Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:19:12 +0100
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