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On Jul 13, 3:47�pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 4:58 pm, John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote:
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> > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:53:48 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c>
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> > >rbwinn wrote:
> > >> On Jul 11, 5:18?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote:
> > >>> "The Natural Philosopher" <a...@b.c> wrote in messagenews:1215765710.4836.0@proxy02.news.clara.net...
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> > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > >>>>> On Jul 10, 5:20?am, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Alex W. wrote:
> > >>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>>news:08134c4b-46c5-454f-9a5f-47756eddfd59@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> > >>>>>>> Without religion to oppose, atheists would do nothing at all.
> > >>>>>> Thats not true. They just would walk away from any discussion on the
> > >>>>>> subject thankfully, and get on with living, and in some case, trying to
> > >>>>>> understand the extraordinary universe we seem to find ourselves in.
> > >>>>>> Really the transition fom a Gaia type animism picture of the universe,
> > >>>>>> to a personalised supernatural creator and law giver, to an impersonal
> > >>>>>> set of amoral laws..is not as abrupt as the fanboys would like to think.
> > >>>>>> What is unusual, historically, is the fanatical faith needed to maintain
> > >>>>>> the concept of a personal and moral God, in the face of Reason.
> > >>>>>> Mediaevally speaking, no one questioned that the world and events moved
> > >>>>>> according to some vast and ineffable and mysterious pattern, and the
> > >>>>>> concept of a supernatural intelligence and a plan, was pretty
> > >>>>>> reasonable..until science started uncovering the rules, which turned out
> > >>>>>> to be mindlessly simple, totally impersonal and implacable, and
> > >>>>>> impervious to personal appeal. And no evidence of intelligence at all.
> > >>>>>> Note that none of this necessarily negates the proposition that faith,
> > >>>>>> belief, prayer, and a live lived AS IF there were an afterlife,is not a
> > >>>>>> Good Thing for people and civilisations.
> > >>>>>> But none of these even indicate that what is believed in must of
> > >>>>>> necessity be true.
> > >>>>>> Archers were able to hit targets long before Newton identified the Force
> > >>>>>> of Gravity.
> > >>>>>> Understanding of the presumed science behind phenonmena is no
> > >>>>>> pre-requisite for learning to deal with them. Any ad-hoc theory that has
> > >>>>>> pragmatic use will do.
> > >>>>>> If you look at religion in that light, it makes a lot of sense.
> > >>>>>> Mired in dogma however, the fanatical Theist simply persists in the
> > >>>>>> useless, long past its sell-by date.
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> > >>>>>>> ..... other than get on with our lives ....- Hide quoted text -
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> > >>>>> If atheists want to believe that they are not intelligent, I see no
> > >>>>> problem with that.
> > >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > >>>> And how is that in any way relevant to what I posted?
> > >>> You expect relevance from this moron?
> > >>> He can't even manage coherence, logic or truth.
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> > >>> Smiler,
> > >>> The godless one
> > >>> a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text -
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> > >> Atheists believe that intelligence is nothing more than electrical
> > >> impulses.
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> > >No, they do not. Another lie from the Prince of Lies.
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> > I don't think Bobby is actually lying. I think he really is that
> > stupid.
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> Bobby is demonstrably lying. �Something not easily proven you may
> think. �But he clearly lies about what others post in alt.atheism
> regularly, and that's transferable and transfered evidence.
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> AL- Hide quoted text -

Al, you should have gone into psychiatry.  I'll tell you the first
thing I noticed about psychiatrists.  I escaped from a V.A. hospital
in Tacoma, Washington, and was later put in a V.A. hospital in
Gulfport Mississippi.  Wouldn't you think that the psychiatrist in
Gulfport would ask something different from the psychiatrist in
Tacoma?  The questions were identical.  That was when I started to pay
attention to psychiatrists.  Before that happened, I was not even
worried about psychiatrists.  So I ran a few little tests of my own.
Do not ever joke around with a psychiatrist.  However, you are not a
psychiatrist, Al.  Neither are any of the rest of these atheists.  You
would like to be, though.
Robert B. Winn