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Article #14291Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: The Natural Philosopher
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:18
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 10:18
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rbwinn wrote: > On Jun 29, 1:57�pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote: >> Chris Shore wrote: >>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>> news:621f5b5c-8511-45b7-ae9f-03c8a9914fd5@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... >>>> Well, they do now that I have brought up the subject of Hezekiah's >>>> tunnel and the earthen ramp, which can both be seen today. �Before >>>> that, they were saying there was nothing in the Bible that was not >>>> mythology and nothing in the Bible that could be proven. �Atheists say >>>> whatever they think will fly. �It just so happened that I knew about >>>> Hezekiah's tunnel, so what they usually say was not sufficient for >>>> this conversation. �So now they are saying that the Bible has some >>>> history in it, but they are not happy about having to say that. �They >>>> would rather be saying what they said when this conversation started, >>>> that the Bible is nothing but mythology. >>> Of course the Bibel has some history in it. And of course some of it >>> is verifiable. So are various parts of various other ancient texts from >>> other >>> ancient historical/religious cultures. This prove absolutely nothing. >>> Chris >> Other than that people occasionally tell the truth, and write it down.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, I can compare the Biblical account of the Assyrian invasion of > Judea with the ideas that atheists of today have about it And you will find that I, as an Atheist of Today, have no opinion on its historical accuracy one way or the other. > and see that > the Biblical account is the one that makes sense. Hezekiah's tunnel > was made to divert water from a spring outside the city wall inside > Jerusalem to hide it so that the Assyrians could not use it when they > beseiged Jerusalem. Sounds perfectly sensible to me. Knowing nothing and caring less about that particular bible story. So we can see that either your 'atheists of today' are manufactured inside your own head, or they aren't like me, who is an atheist of today. So really I can't help ou there. > Robert B. Winn
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