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Article #14826Re: ARE ELECTRONS PHYSICAL ENTITIES?
From: Y.Porat
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:36
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:36
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On Jul 27, 7:40 pm, "hhc...@yahoo.com" <hhc...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 25, 5:10 am, Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk wrote: > > > > > ARE ELECTRONS PHYSICAL ENTITIES? > > If an electron is a physical matter-/energy ‘particle’ then it MUST > > have a maybe not definite mean geometrical extension. > > > THE STANDARD-MODEL IS NOT ULTIMATE, MAYBE WRONG? > > It is in the not ultimate standard-model of ‘elementary-particles’ > > that an electron is described without a physical geometrical > > extension. > > In the standard-model of ‘elementary-particles’ the electron is > > described as a ‘point-particle’ that have been given AD HOC physical > > properties as mass, electric charge, spin, magnetic moment etc. > > > It must be time experimentally to discover the ‘true’ nature of the > > electron! > > > Best regards > > Louis Nielsen > > Denmark > > Louis, what is that you don't yet get? > > Realize that the electron is merely an intellectual abstraction, which > serves a useful purpose in modeling interactions with other particles > and fields. While an electron is conceptually modeled and visualized > at a particle, and that model works to date rather well, scinece yet > has no idea what an electron actually is. Is it a particle, a diffuse > quantity of something, or even an electromagnetic wave phenomena. The > fact is, nobody knows. > > The conventional conceptualization of an electron as a particle is > convenient. We can accelerate those little buggers, deflect their > paths, and measure their mass. We can use them to charge batteries, > and operate our television sets and cell phones. We can see their > flight paths using cloud chambers and bubble chambers, or spark > chambers. Still, we cannot capture even one of these little buggers > for close examination. > > So we know how an electron acts, but have no idea what it actually > is. > > Do I hear any arguments? > > Harry C. -------------------- i like that 'we dont know' of yours (:-) Y.P ------------------------
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