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Re: The modified Hubble-relation. Negative Expansion-acceleration of the Universe?

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From: dlzc
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:39
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Dear Lous_N:

On Aug 5, 1:57 pm, Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk wrote:
> On 1 Aug., 15:05, "N:dlzcD:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <d...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Loius_N:
>
> > <Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk> wrote in message
>
> >news:1185968975.751450.270780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> > ...
>
> > > My question to all of you:
> > > Is it ultimately found that the Universe is in an
> > > accelerated expansion and is it ultimately found
> > > that the acceleration is positive or can it be that
> > > the acceleration is negative?
>
> > According to standard Big Bang Theory, the
> > Universe initially inflated very rapidly, then
> > decelerated to a fairly slow pace for a long
> > period of time, then accelerated to what we
> > see now.
>
> > > And what are the measured (calculated) values
> > > of the expansion-acceleration?
>
> >http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~huchra/hubble/
>
> > > PS: Is the observed acceleration-anomaly of
> > > the Pioneer Probes explained by the above
> > > considerations?
>
> > That is a good thought.  The magnitude is about
> > right, but the direction is wrong... rather than ...
> > "expansion" it is "contraction", and several
> > "mechanical" candidates for this anomalous
> > acceleration.
>
> > You might want to peruse this:
> > http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203151
>
> Thank you for your comments and the links which
> I will study.
>
> The Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 have an unexplained
> very small *deceleration* which is the same as a
> *negative acceleration* as in my calculation.

The anomalous acceleration for Pioneer occurred also for four total
satellites / probes.  The anomalous acceleration was "sudden onset",
and occured at different distances from the Sun.

> So I think that the direction is not wrong?

It is wrong for Big Bang expansion as the cause, yes.  Your "math"
returns results that simply modify local G, which *still* fails to
describe the pioneer anomaly.

> What are the measured magnitudes of the velocities
> of the Pioneer Probes? Have you knowledge about
> that?

These links probably will give you what you seek:
(some of these guys may be idiots, so be careful)
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702151
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702149
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702017
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0610160
... these should be reliable
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0510081
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0503021
http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0110373
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0104064

David A. Smith
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