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Article #14921Re: The modified Hubble-relation. Negative Expansion-acceleration of the Universe?
From: dlzc
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:39
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:39
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Dear Lous_N: On Aug 5, 1:57 pm, Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk wrote: > On 1 Aug., 15:05, "N:dlzcD:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <d...@aol.com> wrote: > > > Dear Loius_N: > > > <Loui...@edu.herlufsholm.dk> wrote in message > > >news:1185968975.751450.270780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > ... > > > > My question to all of you: > > > Is it ultimately found that the Universe is in an > > > accelerated expansion and is it ultimately found > > > that the acceleration is positive or can it be that > > > the acceleration is negative? > > > According to standard Big Bang Theory, the > > Universe initially inflated very rapidly, then > > decelerated to a fairly slow pace for a long > > period of time, then accelerated to what we > > see now. > > > > And what are the measured (calculated) values > > > of the expansion-acceleration? > > >http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/~huchra/hubble/ > > > > PS: Is the observed acceleration-anomaly of > > > the Pioneer Probes explained by the above > > > considerations? > > > That is a good thought. The magnitude is about > > right, but the direction is wrong... rather than ... > > "expansion" it is "contraction", and several > > "mechanical" candidates for this anomalous > > acceleration. > > > You might want to peruse this: > > http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0203151 > > Thank you for your comments and the links which > I will study. > > The Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 have an unexplained > very small *deceleration* which is the same as a > *negative acceleration* as in my calculation. The anomalous acceleration for Pioneer occurred also for four total satellites / probes. The anomalous acceleration was "sudden onset", and occured at different distances from the Sun. > So I think that the direction is not wrong? It is wrong for Big Bang expansion as the cause, yes. Your "math" returns results that simply modify local G, which *still* fails to describe the pioneer anomaly. > What are the measured magnitudes of the velocities > of the Pioneer Probes? Have you knowledge about > that? These links probably will give you what you seek: (some of these guys may be idiots, so be careful) http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702151 http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702149 http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0702017 http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0610160 ... these should be reliable http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0510081 http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0503021 http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0110373 http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0104064 David A. Smith
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