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Article #15758Re: Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de désinformation contre Newton Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's m...
From: NoEinstein
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:49
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:49
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On Jul 17, 10:25 am, Yanick Toutain <YanickTout...@gmail.com> wrote: > http://monsyte.blogspot.com/2008/07/misinformation-campaign-against-i... > en ===>frhttp://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=b... > en ====> zthttp://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=b... > > Misinformation campaign against Isaac Newton/Campagne de > désinformation contre Newton > Mr. Ian Parker > > lang=en > > I do not understand with whom your answer is addressed. > You answer me or you address to another interlocutor ? > For my part, as for the "misinformation campaign" , the only one that > I know is the misinformation campaign against the true theses of Isaac > Newton: > All occurs in the vacuum. > All is objective. > Speeds are objective. > It is the beginning of its " Principia". > > Consequently, the relation between speed of light and the speed of the > bodies is simple: > Speed of light is the maximum speed. > Any speed is a fraction (a ratio, a percentage) of the maximum speed, > a fraction, a proportionality of the speed of light. > For example: it is extremely probable which the speed of the sun is > equal to 1/60 speed of light. > ===================== > lang=fr > Je ne comprends pas à qui votre réponse est adressée. > Est-ce que vous me répondez vous ou bien est-ce que vous vous adressez > à un autre interlocuteur ? > Pour ma part, quant à la "campagne de désinformation", la seule que je > connaisse est la campagne de désinformation contre les véritables > thèses de Isaac Newton : > Tout se passe dans le vide. > Tout est objectif. > Les vitesses sont objectives. > C'est le début de ses "Principia". > > En conséquence, la relation entre la vitesse de la lumière et la > vitesse des corps est simple : > La vitesse de la lumière est la vitesse maximale. > Toute vitesse est une fraction (un rapport, un pourcentage) de la > vitesse maximale, une fraction, une proportionalité de la vitesse de > la lumière. > Par exemple : il est fort probable que la vitesse du Soleil soit égale > à 1/60 de la vitesse de la lumière. > ============== > > ========================= > lang=en > The text of Ian Parker : > Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating > disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel > at a different speed near a rotating object. > No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized > disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant. > - Ian Parker > Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un > disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos > theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité > d'un objet en rotation. > Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est > organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas > pertinentes. > ======================== > On 17 juil, 13:23, Ian Parker <ianpark...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 17 Jul, 02:59, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > > > On Jul 14, 6:26 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote: > > > > > Yanick Toutain wrote: > > > > > [snip rest of crap] > > > > > > Michelson and Morley and Miller were wrong about that: They ignored > > > > > the motion of the Sun. > > > > >   1) Michelson-Morley, 1887, no aether to differential 10^(-8) > > > > >   2) 2002, no aether to differential 1.7x10^(-15), > > > > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002) > > > > >   3) 2007, no aether to differential 10^(-16), > > > > >http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031 > > > > Phys. Rev. Lett. 99 050401 (2007) > > > > > Two simultaneous interferometers ==> over a year's observation <==: > > > > Optical in Berlin, Germany at 52°31'N 13°20'E and microwave in Perth, > > > > Australia at 31°53'S 115°53E. An aether background could never be at > > > > rest relative to both of them.  No vacuum dispersion, no vacuum > > > > dichroism. > > > > >   4) Fucking imbecile. > > > > > -- > > > > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/ > > > >  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 > > > > Dear Uncle Al:  The ether flow at the Earth's surface is straight > > > down. That's what causes the force of gravity.  Interferometer > > > experiments expecting to detect ether that is just waiting in Earth's > > > path, don't take into account that ether rotates WITH the Earth and > > > flows straight down.  At higher distances the ether flow is at an > > > angle.  Think of this like looking at storm systems on Earth. > > > Understanding ether flow is really like understanding weather > > > systems.  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text - > > > Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating > > disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel > > at a different speed near a rotating object. > > > No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized > > disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant. > > >  - Ian Parker > > > Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un > > disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos > > theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité > > d'un objet en rotation. > > > Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est > > organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas > > pertinentes.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents - > > > - Afficher le texte des messages précédents - > > Bonjour > > I don't understand- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Dear Yanick: If you don't understand, you have lots of company on this news group. I've disproved SR and GR. To understand more, read the following links. — NoEinstein — Where Angels Fear to Fall http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/1e3e426fff6a5894/898737b3de57d9e6?hl=en&lnk=st&q=Where+Angels+Fear+to+Fall#898737b3de57d9e6 Cleaning Away Einstein’s Mishmash http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/5d847a9cb50de7f0/739aef0aee462d26?hl=en&lnk=st&q=#739aef0aee462d26 Dropping Einstein Like a Stone http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/989e16c59967db2b?hl=en#
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