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Re: Answers to Mr. Ben : Michelson's mirrors Re: How to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment without SR?

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From: Ian Parker
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:23
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On 17 Jul, 02:59, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On Jul 14, 6:26 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
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> > Yanick Toutain wrote:
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> > [snip rest of crap]
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> > > Michelson and Morley and Miller were wrong about that: They ignored
> > > the motion of the Sun.
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> >    1) Michelson-Morley, 1887, no aether to differential 10^(-8)
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> >    2) 2002, no aether to differential 1.7x10^(-15),
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> > Phys. Rev. Lett. 88(1) 010401 (2002)
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> >    3) 2007, no aether to differential 10^(-16),
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> >http://arXiv.org/abs/0706.2031
> > Phys. Rev. Lett. 99 050401 (2007)
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> > Two simultaneous interferometers ==> over a year's observation <==:
> > Optical in Berlin, Germany at 52°31'N 13°20'E and microwave in Perth,
> > Australia at 31°53'S 115°53E. An aether background could never be at
> > rest relative to both of them.  No vacuum dispersion, no vacuum
> > dichroism.
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> >    4) Fucking imbecile.
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> > --
> > Uncle Alhttp://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
> >  (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
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> Dear Uncle Al:  The ether flow at the Earth's surface is straight
> down. That's what causes the force of gravity.  Interferometer
> experiments expecting to detect ether that is just waiting in Earth's
> path, don't take into account that ether rotates WITH the Earth and
> flows straight down.  At higher distances the ether flow is at an
> angle.  Think of this like looking at storm systems on Earth.
> Understanding ether flow is really like understanding weather
> systems.  — NoEinstein —- Hide quoted text -
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Look experiments have been performed where light passes a rotating
disc. If there was even a modicum of truth in this light would travel
at a different speed near a rotating object.

No, as we have said time after time what we are seeing is an organized
disinformation campaign. Facts are irrelevant.


  - Ian Parker

Regardez expériences ont été effectuées où la lumière passe à un
disque tournant. Si il y avait même un minimum de vérité dans vos
theories, cette lumière voyage à une vitesse différente à proximité
d'un objet en rotation.

Non, comme nous l'avons dit maintes fois ce que nous voyons est
organisé une campagne de désinformation. Les faits ne sont pas
pertinentes.
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