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Article #15775Re: Newtonian explanation of gravitational time dilation possible?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:53
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:53
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On Jul 17, 2:37 pm, Danny Milano <milanoda...@yahoo.com> wrote in sci.physics: > Hi, > > When objects are in strong gravity. Time literally slows down > (not SR wise but literally) such that in the moon, time is > faster because earth gravity make our time slower. > > According to a famous anti-relativist who wrote an > award winning book. The explanation is related to > what Mitchell said that when object moves from > low gravity to high gravity, there is loss of energy and > reduction of frequency and increase of wavelength > and this causes redshifting. Time slows down too as > a result of this by causing influences on the atoms. > This is a newtonian explanation against the pure > spacetime concept where time slows down because > of the geometry distortion. > > IIs the newtonian explanation possible? Can it be > falsified by empirical data? > > Danny There is a textbook formula: (frequency) = (speed of light)/(wavelength) that both relativists and anti-relativists accept. According to this formula, if the frequency decreases in a gravitational field, then either the wavelength increases and the speed of light remains constant, or the speed of light decreases and the wavelength remains constant. Which alternative is physically more reasonable? Pentcho valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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